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post #1 of 167 (permalink) Old 12-06-2013, 12:57 AM Thread Starter
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Influx in noobs

After following the thread earlier that was discussing the recent influx in noobs and board suggestions, (http://www.snowboardingforum.com/boa...e-any-way.html) I got to thinking about an article I recently read that talked about snowboarding as a whole being in decline and that more of the younger generations that were taking to the hills were skiing instead of snowboarding. Not good. I agreed with most of the points made about the forums search engine, and about the first post board recommendations. As a veteran snowboarder that has had the opportunity to ride much more in the past three years, I have enjoyed being part of this wealth of snowboarding knowledge. As a member of TGR (Teton gravity research), I see varying perspectives to the ski/snowboard lifestyle, and feel that the new members and excited board hunters are helping to keep this sport alive. Despite the annoying repetition I think it's important to continue to not be sarcastic dicks and to offer direction to future shredders to maximize their stoke. Snowboarding stokes me out everyday, and I like sharing that stoke. Hopefully you do to. I'm out.

Ps. One thing to consider also is that most of the younger noobs know how to search and get beta. They know the internet better than I do. But getting personal affirmation from other veteran snowboarders is always cool.

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Great post, even though, as one of the noobs in question, I can't be expected to say anything else. But I actually don't get fazed by the multitude of "which board" threads, I thought they happened every season and in fact, I used the existing one to do my own board research. And then I narrowed it down a bit and... posted mine. I guess now's the time to apologie for that.

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Ps. One thing to consider also is that most of the younger noobs know how to search and get beta. They know the internet better than I do. But getting personal affirmation from other veteran snowboarders is always cool.
That's exactly how I felt. Plus, getting some assurance that you're not about to spend your hard-earned and tiny stipend on a complete shite board or one that will not work for you is nice.
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good post.

while I agree some people post absolute garbage that deserves a bit of a flame, too often I see people asking genuine questions only to get a huge serve from some blokes that have obviously just had a shitty day and want to take it out on someone over the safety of the internet.

snowboarders are supposed to be cool, friendly, laid back people. not angry blokes looking to abuse anyone they can at any given opportunity. my 2c.
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Funny. I was absent from this board for about 3 years I think, and came back last week and started reading, and all the time I had the idea something was off. It seemed so boring and too insulting/aggressive by times, I kinda remembered this place from extremely interesting page-long technical discussions about carving/skidding/whatnot and a very nice Tips/Tricks section. Didn't really figure out what changed, but now I know.

Yet it's too easy to just blame the noobs. It's not the first time I saw this happen to fora over the course of a couple of years. Not sure what all the causes are though. Noobs partly, but also typical are those that have been around for a bit longer and seem to get sick of the same question over and over again and then instead of ignoring it, just start talking trash.

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I would say 90% of the "my first board" or "what board should I get?" threads get a setious answer. Of course when you see a thread and another one just below it with almost exactly the same title and subject, well you are inviting some of the grumpy old men (and women) to reply. You can say much of the same for other mega repeat forums like the travel and regional sections.

If snowboarding is retracting right now, I am not seeing it. Almost any given day at Bert there are as many snowboarders as skiers out there. A lot of the time snowboarders are a solid majority. I see similar stuff at sled ski spots too.

I am starting to think that some of this decline is actually riders moving away from resorts. Going a route that is less easy to track.

Skiing has gone through this a ton. It was time for this segment to experience it.

The forum changes too. Six months from now, it will have a different feel. Some of the most avtive members here right now will have moved on. Other, new ones will be participating. On occasion, dcsnow will pull one of his pranks...
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I do kind of see the shift away from snowboarding, but it's not as drastic as people are making it seem. Part of it is that people just want to have fun and they are tired of being on their butts all day so they go skiing. I've seen more mixed groups of skiing and snowboarders and it's usually the newest people to the snow on skis because it's easier to keep up. As much as I find some of the board questions annoying because it seems like they aren't looking at other forums I find the constant flaming annoying and worse. Sometimes people just start forums because they just can't find the answer they are looking for.
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Funny. I was absent from this board for about 3 years I think, and came back last week and started reading, and all the time I had the idea something was off. It seemed so boring and too insulting/aggressive by times, I kinda remembered this place from extremely interesting page-long technical discussions about carving/skidding/whatnot and a very nice Tips/Tricks section. Didn't really figure out what changed, but now I know.
Nah I think the change was that Snow Wolf left. Nobody else was writing pages of advice/tutorials. We still have knowledgeable members, but they don't take the time to do that. Which I don't blame them for, but there is a big difference now with that void. I'd be curious how many AASI/CASI we have now.
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I can tell you a very simplified version of what happened. The management let one very industrious member repeatedly troll and flame basically the entire board over a very long period of time. Well, monkey see, monkey do.

I never bothered to try and catch up on why SW left, probably eventually decided that life was too short to spend so much time online (especially given the level of frustration he had dealing with the atmosphere).

Read on another forum: "If someone held a gun to my head and said, "You have to move to Salida tomorrow", I'd probably do it. If they told me I had to go to Breckenridge instead, I think I'd just let them pull the trigger."
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Nah I think the change was that Snow Wolf left. Nobody else was writing pages of advice/tutorials. We still have knowledgeable members, but they don't take the time to do that. Which I don't blame them for, but there is a big difference now with that void. I'd be curious how many AASI/CASI we have now.
I miss wolf, i was sad when I found out he left.
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