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Old 01-31-2009, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am an Industrial Design student and I am doing research for a project on redesigning snowboard bindings. My general idea is to design a set of bindings that you could just put your foot in and they would electronically shut them selves. I have been looking at flow bindings and the main grip with them is that they dont offer the same stability as ratchet bindings and they are hard to put on in deep snow which is, i assume, due to the way that the back drops down. This would not be the case in the idea i have, i am thinking that they snap over the top of the boot and tighten to either a predefined level, or until a general level of tightness. I would really appreciate any ideas or input anyone might wont to put forward. what is the general thoughts for the idea?
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm thinking electrical components = probably some added weight. Technical problems that may have to be dealt with ontop of the already large number of problems bindings could have. I'm not that lazy that I can't spend 15 seconds doing up my bindings by hand
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The aspect of whether this product is needed or not is a fair point but would i be right in pointing out that similar thinking was behind the development of the flow bindings? why make something that is easier to use but does not function as well? Assuming the electronic aspect could be overcome and the added weight kept to a minimum then this would be an improvement on both the flow and ratchet bindings, right?
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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what about a push button line that can attach to your pant legs and at the push of the button the bindings release. so in case for some reason you need to get out of your board, but you cannot reach down to your feet, you just push this button, which has a line connected to the bindings which would release the ratchets, allowing the boots to be removed from the binding. the line could work similar to the way cable brakes and shifters work on a mountain bike.
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The aspect of whether this product is needed or not is a fair point but would i be right in pointing out that similar thinking was behind the development of the flow bindings? why make something that is easier to use but does not function as well? Assuming the electronic aspect could be overcome and the added weight kept to a minimum then this would be an improvement on both the flow and ratchet bindings, right?
Would it? What's your design? How does it perform? What's the final weight? How reliable is the electronic system with all of those moving parts covered in ice, water, and snow in sub-zero temps?

That's not a question you, or anybody, can really answer when the design is still in your melon.
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Old 01-31-2009, 07:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I like the way you think, but honestly if it ain't broke don't fix it. The normal ratchet bindings have been working perfectly fine for a long time now and I don't think we need to change them. I don't think that any electronic device would ever be able to withstand the punishment of snowboarding.
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I don't want to piss all over your idea here but it has potentially a lot of problems to overcome.

Water and extreme cold: How will you make the electronic bindings waterproof and shelter the electronic components from the extreme cold. Motors don't function very well in the cold, especially tiny ones

Power: How will the bindings be powered? Adding a battery pack is bulky and unsightly, most other power options are expensive

Weight: Motors, Batteries, and wires. It sounds heavy

Damage: Snowboarders abuse their equipment, rocks, trees, rails. It's a sport thats hard on its equipment. How will you manage to make the bindings strong without making them bulky? Also how will a rider tighten the binding if the batteries die or a motor breaks on the binding?

Performance: The binding must be highly responsive in action on top of all the other requirements, if it's not helping me bomb down the mountain then i'm not likely to ride it


COST: With all those requirements there is no way that this binding will be cheap enough to mass market. The highest end bindings top out anywhere between 300-350 and they have proven performance from companies we trust.
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Old 01-31-2009, 08:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Start trying to think with magnets. They are heavy, but not any heavier than some type of electrical device and they can work in a lot of different conditions. Definitely gotta think outside the box and see what you can come up with. There's always room to improve todays designs in just about anything.
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I like the way you think, but honestly if it ain't broke don't fix it. The normal ratchet bindings have been working perfectly fine for a long time now and I don't think we need to change them. I don't think that any electronic device would ever be able to withstand the punishment of snowboarding.
Thats what they said about boot laces..i mean you tighten them and go down the mountain..why would you need SpeedLace/BOA?
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Thats what they said about boot laces..i mean you tighten them and go down the mountain..why would you need SpeedLace/BOA?
Thats a good point, I didn't even think of that.
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