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aguy 02-09-2014 08:56 PM

Olympics: Women + snowboard tricks = Huh?
 
I'm an infrequent snowboarder and don't enjoy trick riding. I'm also old and never tried a jump as large as the Olympics slopestyle jumps.

It seems like the girls were outside of their comfort zone. Could someone who does these slopstyle jumps explain to me why all these girls are losing their air balance in the semifinals and flailing their arms like they just started doing these jumps a month ago? What am I missing? I get flailing the arms will help them land properly, preventing injury, but even with flailing they were wiping out. Do landing these jumps require a lot of strength? Do women just not have this strength? Do they all just "have to" wipe out, because they can't take the force or something?

I guess if strength is the issue, the jumps would be smaller, which would make sense they wouldn't have enough air time to complete a 1080 and 720 is a monster jump, so are the jumps smaller for women? Why is a 540 and barely landing it such an accomplishment (at the Olympic level)?

I also know nothing about what gets someone qualified for the Olympics. Do the winners from local (national) competitions get to go and there just isn't a lot of competition among the women and so the standards are lower?

If competition is an issue? Why wouldn't a woman just train with the men? Like if I was a woman, interested at an Olympic I guess that gets into why do the tricks at all? I see it as gratification of outperforming one's self. Like adding an extra turn in some direction. The female halfpipe competition was even more surprising.

Jason 02-09-2014 10:11 PM

I saw one girl catch her heel edge pretty bad. She cracked her helmet, I'll be shocked if she didn't get a concussion.

JPOW 02-09-2014 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 1519929)
I saw one girl catch her heel edge pretty bad. She cracked her helmet, I'll be shocked if she didn't get a concussion.


I saw that, insane. She was knocked out for about 20 seconds. Surprised she got up.

And I agree with OP, been a LOT more arm flailing and "air swimming" thus far in the Olympics. Need more grabs and longer grabs

kaborkian 02-09-2014 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JPOW (Post 1520017)
I saw that, insane. She was knocked out for about 20 seconds. Surprised she got up.

And I agree with OP, been a LOT more arm flailing and "air swimming" thus far in the Olympics. Need more grabs and longer grabs

Yea, definitely KTFO Until she stopped sliding. I was amazed she rode down on her own. Concussion for sure.

CassMT 02-09-2014 11:05 PM

a lot less of that in the final it seemed...but i think it was one of the biggest , toughest courses ever..tight rail section and frikkn huge jumps, i think they handled it well

some women were asking for a smaller course, and some were demanding to ride the same as mens...oviously the latter won out. the biggest voice for riding the mens was Spencer Obrien, who ironically got 10th

Lowlyffe 02-10-2014 12:27 AM

The women usually do just fine on slope and pipe. This competition has been an anomaly. Maybe its the conditions? As you may have heard Sochi doesnt get much if any real snow from what I have heard. Almost all the snow you see is manmade and imported from other parts of the country. So it is possible its the conditions/grooming that could be causing it. In general, women dont get as much speed or air as the men, but they do tend to be very clean.

Varza 02-10-2014 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lowlyffe (Post 1520313)
The women usually do just fine on slope and pipe. This competition has been an anomaly. Maybe its the conditions? As you may have heard Sochi doesnt get much if any real snow from what I have heard. Almost all the snow you see is manmade and imported from other parts of the country. So it is possible its the conditions/grooming that could be causing it. In general, women dont get as much speed or air as the men, but they do tend to be very clean.

Why is that? I have always been sure that there are some biomechanical reasons for women not going as fast, or as high as the men(the major one that comes to mind is the weight difference). Am I right or sorely mistaken?

neni 02-10-2014 11:04 AM

Take this from someone who hasnít seen any other slopestyle contests and has missed the men's ones (sometimes I hate the closed-minded patriotic selection of broadcasting channel... no Swiss in the final? then we won't show it. mehmehmeh.), so I have no reference to compare to. Three Swiss girls in the final, thus the womenís slopestyle was broadcasted.

And I have to say, I was taken aback. No ten horses would bring me to even only try to get on a Ė very low - rail, no way! Must be a very painful learning curve till you can keep balance on such stuff. And then seeing those (astonishingly sweet) rather petite girls tackling those fricking huge rollers! :blink: They seem to have an additional gland... Iím full of admiration :bowdown:

Bones 02-10-2014 11:29 AM

That course is very tight. Quite a few of guys couldn't get lined up in time and bailed out

Karpediem 02-10-2014 12:08 PM

Yeah something with that course was off. I can't recall seeing so many people land so far down on the landings...it was either the first or second one. Even some of the girls were doing it.


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