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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 02-09-2009, 05:51 AM
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I also have an Agent. And when I carve and sometimes it stays in the cut I made. Maybe this is the 2 bevel. Or it is prolly just me. No clue.

Other than that issue the Agent performs great outside the park (it is no pure park-board as mentioned). Offpiste it does a good job aswell.
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post #12 of 23 (permalink) Old 02-09-2009, 06:28 AM
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i've been using my ride DH all this year at my local resorts but they are small hills. for any true freeride/ all mountain riding i will use the bigger, stiffer board.

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I have a Hatchet and doing anything on it besides being in the park and some tame flats for buttering and such is not much fun. Granted I'm a bigger guy (6'5" 230) so maybe I torque my equipment harder than the average guy, but riding the Hatchet on a bump run or just trying to lay a carve sucks. You can feel every bump, it doesn't blast through anything it just gets tossed around. Everyone I've ever heard riding a Hatchet has had it strictly for the park to beat on.
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My friend also takes his DH out of park all the time and has no problems. A lot of boards on here have been mislabled as "all-park" boards, I have noticed.
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I have a Hatchet and doing anything on it besides being in the park and some tame flats for buttering and such is not much fun. Granted I'm a bigger guy (6'5" 230) so maybe I torque my equipment harder than the average guy, but riding the Hatchet on a bump run or just trying to lay a carve sucks. You can feel every bump, it doesn't blast through anything it just gets tossed around. Everyone I've ever heard riding a Hatchet has had it strictly for the park to beat on.
Im gonna say thats in your weight/hight.

at 5'9" 150 pounds the hatchet is a sweet tank. it tears through most bump runs when im hauling ass and catches little air. but maybe ive yet to get on a really high quality board and see just how good riding can get
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I'd say 80 lbs and 8 inches would definitely change the way a board reacts. I usually ride a K2 Recon Riser which is pretty stiff and poppy compared to the Hatchet, so maybe I'm biased the other way because I'm used to tearing through stuff. Whatever works for the rider.
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So I have the bataleon evil twin and a burton walhol twin. Both Park boards but I just go downhill. Are those boards not suitable or can I set the bindings back and they'll be fine?
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So I have the bataleon evil twin and a burton walhol twin. Both Park boards but I just go downhill. Are those boards not suitable or can I set the bindings back and they'll be fine?
Take them out and see for yourself. It's not like your going to slip on every turn or simply have the worst time boarding because of that.

Freeride boards are generally
- stiffer with possible dampening for less/no chatter
- have higher tip and tail height and a setback for better pow float
- different edge bevel for better edge hold

If you don't plan on hard-charging the hill or riding some deep powder then i'm sure your boards will be very fun.
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My main ride is a 151 Graft. I take it all over. While I often ride it outside of the park, it does have its limitations. It won't go as fast a longer, stiffer all-mountain ride. When they snow gets hard, it will give you a VERY rough ride, as it can't cut through crud. At high speeds it gets twitchy. I hardly every get to ride real powder, but I know it would be sketch under those circumstances, too.

All this said, the Graft is still a really fun ride for an "all-mountain" deck if you willing to deal with its inherent limitations. Outside of the park, I have been riding switch about 40% of the time this season. A true twin makes that a great deal easier, and fun. That the deck is small, light, and agile is what makes it such a joy to ride, as you can just throw-it around all over the mountain. I have a tendency to ride trails like I am street skating, so a park board is pretty good for that. However there are still times when I wish I had stiffer, longer all-mountain board based on the conditions and my desire to go fast as I possibly can. Life is all a matter of trade offs and compromises, you just have to figure out which ones you want to make.

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