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Old 03-01-2014, 09:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1 child, 2 adults pulled alive from Mount Jumbo avalanche

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Snowboarders who were on the slope above the slide were reportedly interviewed and released by law enforcement officers. It was not disclosed if they’re believed to have caused the avalanche, which roared down a steep, narrow gorge and down Holly Street before finally stopping in the middle of Van Buren Street.
crazy stuff..it was a Complete polar vortex blizzaerd out there yesterday when this happened, the 3 survivors were SO lucky to be alive!

1 child, 2 adults pulled alive from Mount Jumbo avalanche
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Old 03-01-2014, 09:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm happy to hear that everyone survived but I have questions about this "snowboarders believed to be responsible" and them being questioned by cops. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but unless they are saying the snowboarders set up the snow themselves to avalanche then why are they even being mentioned?
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Old 03-01-2014, 09:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Again, I have "zero" mountain knowledge.

1st glad everyone made it out.

This is not the first time from the article this has happened. How can you blame people on the hill for an avalanche. Yes they may have helped trigger it but from the tone of the article this was a tragedy waiting to happen with all the snow they already have. Would this have happened naturally a 12 hrs later, a day a week?

Who builds a subdivision in the path of this type of terrain.

Is this the same as those that live on the coast and have to deal with hurricanes. If you choose to live in this terrain/climate this is the risk you take and you can't blame others. You enjoy the great times and the bad times....

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i think the cops probably just took names, etc...in case someone dies, which might change the story entirely...not sure what the status of the land up there is, i think it's NFS

i do know thw house was obliterated, those 3 were lucky as shit...



here's Mt Jumbo overlooking missoula, the rattlesnake neighborhood is right off the left side in this image...

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1. Build house in avalanche path
2. Blame snowboarders
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I would tend to believe that anyone who might have witnessed the event would have been interviewed especially if they were near the trigger zone. I didn't get the impression that any blame was being assigned.
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yeh i don't think they are being blamed, but i bet they did touch it off...imagine bein gone of those boarders, watching the avalanche go down below them and just smash a house, OoPs! sorry...they should count theyselves lucky too, talk about entrapment zone....
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UPDATE

the 68yr old woman, who was trapped for 3 hours, died of her unjuries sunday...damn. her husband ( who happens to have been one of my wife's UofM proffessors back in the day) is still alive in critical condition. the little boy of 8 was realeased, he was trapped 1 hour, amazingly, jammed up agin a fence in a pocket of air.

Mount Jumbo: Air pockets saved 3 buried when 120 mph avalanche hit

and there is this, seems to be the smoking gun pretty much:

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A snowboarder likely triggered the slide near the summit of Jumbo, which was primed for trouble by a mid-week warm spell followed by the first serious blizzard Missoula had experienced since 1997.
“All it was waiting for was a trigger, and we got that with the snowboarder,” said West Central Montana Avalanche Center director Steve Karkanen. “He was on a slab probably 2 or 3 feet deep. It collapsed with a whoomp and he started to go for a ride. He got caught in it for a while, but got free.”
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“We heard this huge whump,” neighbor Cheryl McMillan said of the 4 p.m. incident. “At first we thought it was just snow falling off the roof. But it was also more like a roar. It didn’t last very long.”
Cheryl’s son Caleb looked up the Mount Jumbo slope and saw a snowboarder walking down, carrying his board. Looking farther, he noticed the Allendorf house was gone.


they estimate the avalanche hit the house at 120mph



i doubt they will charge the kid, imo a horrible accident, general stupidity, but not criminal
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still pretty stupid building your house in such dangerous place.
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My understanding that the area the snowboarder was in was permanently closed to human traffic.

Still, if you build a house in an avalanche path, that path is going to slide. Regardless if a human triggers it or not.

Not really sure what is going to happen with this one. I know the DA is reported to be looking if charges are warranted or not.
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