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KIRKRIDER 03-03-2014 12:36 PM

powder board and stance width.
 
I used to set way back my camber board for deep days, and it worked to somewhat diminish the back leg workout, but at the same time control of the board was not the same, not to mention washing out every other turn. So once I got my Hovercraft I kept doing the same on deep pow days.

I am now convinced that is wrong. both boards should be ridden centered and respecting your stance ( mine is 20.5 / 21 ). I started pay attention to that and realized that moving both binding as far back as possible would give me a stance of about 23.5 / 24, way wider than I like. SO I finally marked the spots on both boards where my stance width takes me, no matter the conditions, and the board (Hovercraft) performed much better.

How do you guys deal with deep days? What do you think?

linvillegorge 03-03-2014 12:53 PM

There's no need to setback a powder board. They're already plenty setback.

Setting back other boards behind what the camber is really designed for causes the issues you're talking about. In my experience, those issues don't show up in powder, but make themselves well known as soon as you hit a groomer. IMO, it's a give and take. If it's a really deep day and that's all you've got, set it back and deal with the little bit of sketchiness on groomers between pow stashes. I also never set my bindings back beyond what my normal stance width would allow.

KIRKRIDER 03-03-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by linvillegorge (Post 1584098)
There's no need to setback a powder board. They're already plenty setback.



Now I see the light. Also, on the new Hovercraft thy marked the center points, I saw in a video review. On mine they weren't marked, making the whole setup a bit of hit and miss. How do you properly calculate the sidecut center in a Hybrid rocker- camber - rocker board?

redlude97 03-03-2014 02:57 PM

The easiest thing to do is just pull out a tape measure. Assuming the inserts are correct, look up the recommend setback for the board, then measure from the tip to the first set of the inserts and the same for the rear. That will be a bit tricky with the hovy. Or measure between the widest points with the board on its side to determine the center point to measure out your stance width

wrathfuldeity 03-03-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KIRKRIDER (Post 1584050)
How do you guys deal with deep days? What do you think?

Powder board...like a Charlie Slasher

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Originally Posted by KIRKRIDER (Post 1584146)
Now I see the light. Also, on the new Hovercraft thy marked the center points, I saw in a video review. On mine they weren't marked, making the whole setup a bit of hit and miss. How do you properly calculate the sidecut center in a Hybrid rocker- camber - rocker board?

Ought to be able to see it or just do some width measuring with a tape measure....narrowest point will be the sidecut center.

behi 03-03-2014 03:03 PM

I like a wide stance for powder. It's easier to shift the weight and throw the board around (e.g. when you have some windblown stuff or crust).

When there is good powder, I do use some setback (I always carry good tools). In terms of groomers, setback doesn't bother me that much for skidded turns, but I can't carve anymore.

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Originally Posted by KIRKRIDER (Post 1584146)
Now I see the light. Also, on the new Hovercraft thy marked the center points, I saw in a video review. On mine they weren't marked, making the whole setup a bit of hit and miss. How do you properly calculate the sidecut center in a Hybrid rocker- camber - rocker board?

Just use the same mounting holes front and back (mirrored of course).

KIRKRIDER 03-03-2014 03:13 PM

Yep. Got it now. JJ suggests a 23" stance for the Hovy, it feels a bit too wide for me, but I might try it in a really deep and fluffy day.

according to most tables I found online the Stance width for my height should be around 20, tape measured the inserts and found out my options, marked them down on all boards. Funny that in ALL board setup video I watched ( and I watched lots of them) there is no mention about this step.

linvillegorge 03-03-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KIRKRIDER (Post 1584514)
Yep. Got it now. JJ suggests a 23" stance for the Hovy, it feels a bit too wide for me, but I might try it in a really deep and fluffy day.

according to most tables I found online the Stance width for my height should be around 20, tape measured the inserts and found out my options, marked them down on all boards. Funny that in ALL board setup video I watched ( and I watched lots of them) there is no mention about this step.

I tend to not listen to the advice of others in terms of things like stance width and binding angles. Just do what feels right.

KIRKRIDER 03-03-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by linvillegorge (Post 1584522)
I tend to not listen to the advice of others in terms of things like stance width and binding angles. Just do what feels right.


I always did, but yesterday while riding I felt I was off balance. The board floated all right, but I didn't have the feeling I was completely in control. Moved my stance to the center... problem solved.

I really thought the choice of inserts was to accomodate deeper powder, not one's stance. Instead I read it's the opposite.

linvillegorge 03-03-2014 03:24 PM

Stance width and angles does not equal setback. Even when I was setting back my all-mountain boards before buying a powder stick, I kept my width and angles the same.


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