violence in the lift line? - Snowboarding Forum

AZred60 · 02-16-2009, 12:55 AM

so i was at sunrise in az today with my little brother, finishing up a good day of riding. i was spending a long weekend in pinetop with my family because it is the one year anv of my cousins death up near flagstaff. so basically family has been really important to me lately, and i have become more protective. anyway, i beat my brother down the mtn on our last run and unstrapped. about five seconds after he pulled up, he pointed and yelled "fight!" these two douche bags were trying to swing at each other right next to the lift line. except they didnt even know how to swing so they just kind of grabbed each other. they were grabbing each other within a few feet of several small kids and families. as cheesy as it might sound, seeing that happen so close to those families made me think of my own, and my brother encouraged me to go break it up. now those of you who know me on this forum may know that i am a offensive lineman in college so i am pretty decently sized. i dont normally mind fighting. i mean ok thats the way some people settle stuff, guys duke it out and its over, but at best, there is a time and place for it, and the lift line near families is certainly not it. so i dropped my board and ran at the guys and plowed them over with a hit stick, landing on top of both of them. i started prying them apart, and my brother came in to finish the job. then one of the d bags little buddies tried to fight me for breaking it up lol. i was like "wtf are you serious." i broke it up, because first off, they are endangering innocent people, and second, what could have possibly happened in the lift line that would cause a legit reason to fight? so i stood up and when he saw that i had him by a full foot, he backed off. my brother and i grabbed our stuff and bailed before anyone official got there. bottom line is, if you are gonna fight, cool, but do it in a place where you arent putting small children and families in any kind of danger. and for christ sake dont do it at a ski resort. anyone think i was wrong here?

legallyillegal · 02-16-2009, 01:00 AM

that is so fucking hey doritos

Dawg Catcher · 02-16-2009, 01:02 AM

way to go john mclane

while i see where you are coming from eh i would have let them settle it, like usual its times like these were adrenaline takes over and judgement is poor. you win som (today you did) and you loose some (more often then not) you neve know how many other people the guys have with em and while they are fighting each other they get plowed by someone and how does the saying go, the enemy or my enemy is my friend.

Dawg Catcher · 02-16-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by legallyillegal

that is so fucking hey doritos

Enigmatic · 02-16-2009, 01:07 AM

yeah i think it depends...but usually this kinda thing gets taken to the parking lot

AZred60 · 02-16-2009, 01:19 AM

i agree with you guys, but simply because of my size and strength and speed that football has given me, i dont really lose fights (promise im not trying to have an ego or anything, but i mean it does add to the whole confidence factor). and i do have a very level head, i dont let my adrenaline get the best of me. i mean do what you want in the parking lot, hell ill come and watch, but dont do it around kids and stuff

02-16-2009, 01:40 AM

Alcohol?... idk because it gets sold here i n.z up in the "resorts" it gets sold. never been to u.s for a sesh so dunno the resorts

Extremo · 02-16-2009, 04:43 AM

Lift lines are where fights are going to happen most. I come pretty close to knocking out someone almost every weekend. There are a lot of packs of riders (and skiers) at my local hill that like to stick together so they'll cut people to try and get closer chairs, and if they're cutting people in front of me then I'll always say something. Some of them get fresh sometimes and I've had to get in a few peoples face but it's never escalated to throwing punches, but I'm sure someday it will. I'm actually looking forward to it because with all the retards on the hill these days I get pretty aggrivated by noontime and won't mind taking it all out on some asshole.

And as far as kids and families being around, let it be a lesson to them that if you don't know snow resort etiquette then it cold result in a beat down. Snowboarding needs to subscribe to the same vigilante culture surfing has. There is only a small amount of terrain we have to ride so its about cleaning up our turf and enforcing respect. I'm not saying just go beat people up. I'll let them know how they're being an asshole and that's usually the end of it.

bakesale · 02-16-2009, 12:08 PM

I decked a guy in the lift line once because he was purposely knocking my board, I told him to fucking stop that shit but he persisted, laughing while doing it. It was some middle aged, socially inept asian man. I unstrapped threw down my gloves and gave the guy a good jab to the face. He didn't think it was so funny after that. Ski Patrol were pretty choked over it but other people in line and the lifties backed me up, saying the man was instigating it.

Another time I got into a fight was because this group of skiiers hit the wedge we built in a gladed area of the mountain that was out of bounds. It was too soft and we were still working on it, these skiiers roll up and decide to hit it. The hike back up and say "Cool jump, bro's" The old rule says that if you didn't build it you don't have the right to hit it. We got into a fight, the 4 of us and the three of them, they lost that fight thats for sure.

Nothing feels more manly then defending your shit against douchebags

arsenic0 · 02-16-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowolf

Well, good on you, but be careful. People like that are`nt usually the most stable people out there and could be the type of fruitcake to wait for you in the parking lot with a gun. I guess it`s the sort of thing that takes a case by case judgment call.

I don`t really understand why there is so much hostility with people. People throw punches for getting snow sprayed on them and act all freaked out. Too many energy drinks I guess. Did you ever find out what they were fighting about? I bet is was something silly; usually is.

I have been in two fights at Mt. Hood Meadows. One was on duty in uniform when a punk Ollie`d over my student at full speed. We were on the bunny hill and she was learning to link turns. This douche came barreling down the hill to get to an adjacent lift to make another run through the park. He could have easily went around her as we were both stationary. He deliberately turned and headed right for her and then jumped. If she had gotten up at the last second, he would have taken her head off. I chased him down to the lift and he had just loaded the chair. I hit the emergency stop and pulled him off the chair and yanked his pass. He started swinging at me. I never swung back because he was a minor, but the lift attendant and I tacked him to the ground and held him there until ski patrol and security showed up. He kept up the fight and as a result the Hood River County sheriff gave him a ride to town.

The other was last year off duty. I was dropping the Face at Meadows and this guy was teaching his kid to ski the steeps. The kid was about 6 or 7 and was doing his pizza wedge on the lower half. His dad had skied down about 500 yards and was waiting. This 20 something prick on a snowboard basically careened down the face barely in control and when got down to the are where the kid was, he steered right for the kid at flat out terminal velocity and turned just inches away from the kid to spray him. If the kid would have fallen or turned in front of this guy, he would have killed him at that speed. I got pissed and hauled ass down behind him and when I got to the line at MHX, I took off my board and rushed the guy, knocking him on his ass with a hard shove. Lift ops called patrol and broke us up. When I told patrol what happened and the dad verified the incident, the guy got his pass yanked and I was let go with an obligatory "don't take matters into your own hands" lecture.

Other than that, I have not had any bad incidents with people.

Your lucky...you have something better than fighting..you have the fuck you im taking your $60 or $400+ dollar pass ..ha ha..

02-16-2009, 12:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
AZred60 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 249	violence in the lift line? so i was at sunrise in az today with my little brother, finishing up a good day of riding. i was spending a long weekend in pinetop with my family because it is the one year anv of my cousins death up near flagstaff. so basically family has been really important to me lately, and i have become more protective. anyway, i beat my brother down the mtn on our last run and unstrapped. about five seconds after he pulled up, he pointed and yelled "fight!" these two douche bags were trying to swing at each other right next to the lift line. except they didnt even know how to swing so they just kind of grabbed each other. they were grabbing each other within a few feet of several small kids and families. as cheesy as it might sound, seeing that happen so close to those families made me think of my own, and my brother encouraged me to go break it up. now those of you who know me on this forum may know that i am a offensive lineman in college so i am pretty decently sized. i dont normally mind fighting. i mean ok thats the way some people settle stuff, guys duke it out and its over, but at best, there is a time and place for it, and the lift line near families is certainly not it. so i dropped my board and ran at the guys and plowed them over with a hit stick, landing on top of both of them. i started prying them apart, and my brother came in to finish the job. then one of the d bags little buddies tried to fight me for breaking it up lol. i was like "wtf are you serious." i broke it up, because first off, they are endangering innocent people, and second, what could have possibly happened in the lift line that would cause a legit reason to fight? so i stood up and when he saw that i had him by a full foot, he backed off. my brother and i grabbed our stuff and bailed before anyone official got there. bottom line is, if you are gonna fight, cool, but do it in a place where you arent putting small children and families in any kind of danger. and for christ sake dont do it at a ski resort. anyone think i was wrong here?

02-16-2009, 01:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
legallyillegal -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: fuck Snowboarding Posts: 4,446	that is so fucking hey doritos __________________ THERE ARE SPECIFIC REASONS AS TO WHY I AM MORE LOCAL THAN YOU GOD IS DONUT

02-16-2009, 01:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dawg Catcher Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Back to Arizona Posts: 915	way to go john mclane while i see where you are coming from eh i would have let them settle it, like usual its times like these were adrenaline takes over and judgement is poor. you win som (today you did) and you loose some (more often then not) you neve know how many other people the guys have with em and while they are fighting each other they get plowed by someone and how does the saying go, the enemy or my enemy is my friend. __________________

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02-16-2009, 01:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
Enigmatic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: So Cal - Bear Mountain Posts: 484	yeah i think it depends...but usually this kinda thing gets taken to the parking lot

02-16-2009, 01:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
AZred60 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 249	i agree with you guys, but simply because of my size and strength and speed that football has given me, i dont really lose fights (promise im not trying to have an ego or anything, but i mean it does add to the whole confidence factor). and i do have a very level head, i dont let my adrenaline get the best of me. i mean do what you want in the parking lot, hell ill come and watch, but dont do it around kids and stuff

02-16-2009, 01:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
KiwiLad Guest Posts: n/a	Alcohol?... idk because it gets sold here i n.z up in the "resorts" it gets sold. never been to u.s for a sesh so dunno the resorts

02-16-2009, 04:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
Extremo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NH Posts: 3,116	Lift lines are where fights are going to happen most. I come pretty close to knocking out someone almost every weekend. There are a lot of packs of riders (and skiers) at my local hill that like to stick together so they'll cut people to try and get closer chairs, and if they're cutting people in front of me then I'll always say something. Some of them get fresh sometimes and I've had to get in a few peoples face but it's never escalated to throwing punches, but I'm sure someday it will. I'm actually looking forward to it because with all the retards on the hill these days I get pretty aggrivated by noontime and won't mind taking it all out on some asshole. And as far as kids and families being around, let it be a lesson to them that if you don't know snow resort etiquette then it cold result in a beat down. Snowboarding needs to subscribe to the same vigilante culture surfing has. There is only a small amount of terrain we have to ride so its about cleaning up our turf and enforcing respect. I'm not saying just go beat people up. I'll let them know how they're being an asshole and that's usually the end of it.

02-16-2009, 12:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
bakesale Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 883	I decked a guy in the lift line once because he was purposely knocking my board, I told him to fucking stop that shit but he persisted, laughing while doing it. It was some middle aged, socially inept asian man. I unstrapped threw down my gloves and gave the guy a good jab to the face. He didn't think it was so funny after that. Ski Patrol were pretty choked over it but other people in line and the lifties backed me up, saying the man was instigating it. Another time I got into a fight was because this group of skiiers hit the wedge we built in a gladed area of the mountain that was out of bounds. It was too soft and we were still working on it, these skiiers roll up and decide to hit it. The hike back up and say "Cool jump, bro's" The old rule says that if you didn't build it you don't have the right to hit it. We got into a fight, the 4 of us and the three of them, they lost that fight thats for sure. Nothing feels more manly then defending your shit against douchebags