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Old 02-23-2009, 10:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm new to boarding, linked turns are going well, generally enjoying it a lot. However, when I ride longer runs (especially catwalks and offcamber runs where I spent a lot of time toeside) my feet and calves burn so bad I have to stop after a few minutes. It's not cramping, but more of a burning sensation. I've tightened my boots and bindings pretty snug to eliminate heel movement, but not so tight they cut off circulation.
My questions are, 1) am I using too much effort in my toeside turns or edge holds, 2) how tight should boots/bindings be and 3) is this part of the normal learning progression? Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-23-2009, 10:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I def can't comment on your technique, but I find that a great way to avoid that or alleviate muscle soreness and fatigue is to stay hydrated. I found that when I ride with a camelbak and can take a drink anytime I need to my muscle-cramping and soreness both on the hill and the next day are greatly reduced. Water helps deliver oxygen to your muscles, and the burning is a build of of lactic acid. It's definitely a good idea to stay hydrated both on the hill and the day before. Snowolf posted something somewhere else about quickly switching back and forth between heel and toe to avoid muscle fatigue. I hope that helps.
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Old 02-23-2009, 11:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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By "Catwalks" I am guessing you mean Cat-tracks, at least that's what I've always heard... But yeah in my experience, this usually happens to me because of a few things:
a) I haven't stretched out properly before riding
b) It's the first day riding in more than 3-4 days
c) my boots are either too tight, too loose, or bindings stance is off
d) it's early season and my legs aren't fully back into it.

Usually D) is the main reason - after about 20+ days into the season this seems to happen to me a lot less. Also as magnetism pointed out, hydration is a big factor on top of these things.

Definitely keep switching between edges, or if possible, try riding switch. Sometimes on a slanted cat-track I'll ride switch to save my ankles from not being able to carve and switch edges.
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This is fairly normal. It happens alot when u stay on the same edge for a long time. The way to fix this is to drink more, eat right, stretch, and work out your legs.
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Its often newbs have not figured out to ride toeside with their quads and knees...they don't bend their knees enough...sink down bend those knees. What you are probably doing is riding "tippy toes" to maintain toeside edge. Use your bigger joints and muscles, i.e., knees and quads instead of calves, ankles and feet.
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Its often newbs have not figured out to ride toeside with their quads and knees...they don't bend their knees enough...sink down bend those knees. What you are probably doing is riding "tippy toes" to maintain toeside edge. Use your bigger joints and muscles, i.e., knees and quads instead of calves, ankles and feet.

This.

While some of what you are experiencing could be chalked up to muscle fitness and endurance, a larger part is which muscles are doing the movements. Rather than applying the pressue through the ends of your toes, try pressing the whole front-half of your booth onto your toe edge by pushing the knee out and against the tongue and laces of your boot.
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Its often newbs have not figured out to ride toeside with their quads and knees...they don't bend their knees enough...sink down bend those knees. What you are probably doing is riding "tippy toes" to maintain toeside edge. Use your bigger joints and muscles, i.e., knees and quads instead of calves, ankles and feet.
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While some of what you are experiencing could be chalked up to muscle fitness and endurance, a larger part is which muscles are doing the movements. Rather than applying the pressue through the ends of your toes, try pressing the whole front-half of your booth onto your toe edge by pushing the knee out and against the tongue and laces of your boot.
Yeah, I usually tell people that the hips are very involved. There are certainly pelvic actions that take place after bending your knees, almost like a pelvic thrust (no porn intended). But seriously, it is an all-body movement.

Also, if you're ever in the gym, I've found settings on an arc trainer (not elliptical, but arc - different machines) that hit the areas frequently used in snowboarding. Strong/durable abs are also key.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks to everyone for the great input. I'll work on bending at the knee rather than the ankle.
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I used to have the same issue.
Untill I got inserts for my boots.
There amazing
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:37 AM   #10 (permalink)
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this happens for me on long cat tracks as well, i just switch edges ever so often to relieve the stress a little bit..
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