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Old 02-25-2009, 03:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thank goodness someone finally asked the tough question.

Ok, people are ALWAYS talking about this whole Burton-hating thing. People who hate Burton are just people who hate the mainstream. Burton is the Wal-Mart of the snowboarding world. Almost everyone has had something from them. They are the biggest and most common company so some people refuse to buy them. Being a snowboarder is partially about being against the mainstream. Otherwise, we'd all be skiers.

I personally don't buy Burton because I'm not interested in their style. It's a little boring to me. I buy Rome. But I certainly don't hate on people who buy them. Still, there are fanbois out there who won't even look at other brands and they are just as bad as the haters.

The bottom line is that snowboarding wouldn't be what it is without Burton. There is no reason to hate on them just because they are corporate in my opinion. But I understand why people don't like them.
Just save that quote and each time the Burton debate comes up, post this. See you next week good quote.
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i know that the custom and freestyle bindings r absltly garbage.. bt i love my cartels&custom..
This is the type of stereotyping that causes a lot of ill-informed opinions. As someone who has ridden burton custom bindings '07 for the last 3 seasons, I can say first-hand that these bindings are exceptionally good quality. I have used and abused these things countless times, ridden in -30 weather, and prettymuch exposed them to everything that could kill bindings, and they have held up like rocks. My board and boots could not keep up, and both have been replaced but the custom's keep on kickin like the energizer bunny!

And when I bought them, it wasn't because of the brand name, it was just a sick deal price-wise at the time, and I liked the toe-strap idea.
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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(customs wer good bt broke 3 day afthere purchase, i hanvt rode freestyle bt iv nvr heard NE1 say nething good bat them, exept that they where cheap)

i was trying 2 show both sides of the burton hate-love thing..
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I like Burton's high end boots, but they are $100+ more of an equivalent from other companies.

I also like thier kids stuff, I paid through the nose for my son's set-up (damn the smaller 3 hole pattern for kids stuff) but he is absolutely loving it, the easy rider base and the quick lace boots are awesome.
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Old 02-25-2009, 04:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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ive always liked burton, the word mainstream makes me cringe. its the same gay thing when kids cant listen to a band anymore because they are mainstream even if they are still making good jams. it annoys me.
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Old 02-25-2009, 06:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I upgraded to my custom from a low-end salomon board (pulse), so the difference was night and day for me. I don't have any experience with any other boards though, so it's hard for me to really say whether the custom is that much better than any other similarly priced board. I definitely wouldn't spend the money on the softgoods though.

Warranty is really good though.!
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I upgraded to my custom from a low-end salomon board (pulse), so the difference was night and day for me. I don't have any experience with any other boards though, so it's hard for me to really say whether the custom is that much better than any other similarly priced board. I definitely wouldn't spend the money on the softgoods though.

Warranty is really good though.!
burtons softgoods are good to even burton haters standpoints.
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Old 02-25-2009, 08:55 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I will admit Burton makes some quality stuff, but it is to commercialized for my taste. It's seen as the poser company because most of the sick riders on the mountain aren't riding Burton.
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i just got a burton custom coz it a board that fits my purpose and i got a good deal from the local shop. However i got it paired with Burton Freestyle bindings. And ive been reading up on forums just to realize everyone said they are garbage. Is it true? or just because they are the cheapest burton bindings?
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
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They a good snowsports company. None of the burton models appealed to me this season when shopping for my ride with the exception of the custom. Like any sport, there will always be a manufacturer which is touted by a majority consumer base. Like any bandwagon, there are good and bad reasons for the hype. And like any issue with more than one side, there's never a right answer.

My distant perspective on this hot button is that a lot of people feel secure in decisions they made in an absence of information by standing amongst others who firmly assert that burton is a quality company. When someone seeks to counter that in any capacity, the "fanbois" get up in arms- to say burton is bad is to say they made a poor investment.

Some of Burton's merchandise is of very high quality and deserves to be compared with top-of-the-line equipment. Other times, the Burton name could sell tennis shoes to a mermaid. It's the nature of these industries for certain brand names to filter to the top thanks to the frantic head nodding of the masses.

Anyone who buys Burton because it's Burton is doing precisely what I described at the start of my post- making ill-informed decisions. This can be said for Nike, Underarmor, And1, etc.

Personally, I feel that Burton's quality has dropped in many product lines over the past 5 years or so, but my jacket is Burton and I think it's a great purchase. I wouldn't be surprised if they were more focused on creating an image than creating an item at this point in the company's development. They have a frenzied horde willing to buy poo on a stick if that cool arrow symbol is smeared into the side.
Well, that pretty much sums up my opinion for the most part. My basic opinion of Burton is that they sell their name more than their product. Some of their products are sick and should be noted as such, but the price of their nice stuff is usually SO much higher than what that same product would cost from another company. Another thing that bothers me is their interest in progressing so much of ONLY their own technologies. A good example of this is the ICS/EST system. They made a "progression" that can only be harnessed by those who buy their products... which kinda pisses me off. But hey, it's a business and they're doing what's best for their business.
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