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Old 04-28-2014, 03:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I guess nothing brings a point home quicker than actually experiencing it yourself. I hit Boyne this weekend for the close of their season and learned a valuable lesson about "The right board" for conditions.

It was very warm, soft, deep, corned slush conditions and pushed into huge mounds and wildly irregular moguls. I arrived around 12:00 Sat. I was riding my 157cm NS Proto. It was really fun,.. but it was also really hard work! I was constantly getting bounced and launched off my edge when turning. I did alright and managed to stay up n on it thru a few really sketchy, "almost" fails, but I found it was definitely limiting my willingness to point it into the fall line and just go!!

This trip, I also brought my 163W Arbor. I thought the wide board might be fun to ride n the deeper slush. Maybe it wouldn't be such hard work keeping it up on an edge in the soft stuff. (...since I never actually needed a wide board, and having since acquired two reg. width twin decks. I have been riding the Arbor less and less.)

I was right about it being less of a workout to turn and edge that board in the deep corn, but what I didn't expect was how HUGE the difference that longer, stiffer board made in smoothing out and punching thru all that chop and pushed up stuff!!! Wow!! It totally changed the way I approached riding on Sunday.

I didn't have to focus so much on keeping to short, tight turns. Going slow and deliberate to keep from getting launched out of a turn whenever I picked up some speed on the steep sections. I was able to go faster on much steeper runs and still maintain enough control to confidently pick my line thru the chop without fear of being bounced on my face or behind.

It even did wonders for conserving my legs throught the day. On the 157 Proto, I needed to stay so low and loose, working my legs hard to absorb all those bumps, my thighs got fried pretty damned quick. But on the longer, stiffer board, even tho I still needed to stay loose and low. It felt like the board did a lot of the work my legs had been doing on the shorter softer deck.

The TL;DR version of this is,.. I was seriously thinking about selling the Arbor since I don't need a wide board, but now I believe I'll hang on to it for those days when it's soft and riding the chop is wearing me out!
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to the world of proper sizing

Your undersizing with your 157 @ 210+

I know the feeling though, sometimes I'm all smiles on my low end 161 K2 Brigade, and sometimes question why I bother goofing about on this 154 Operator, and the Brigade is a piece of shit, it just happens that piece of shit is properly sized for my weight.
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Sweet light bulb moment. It takes some time to find out for which condition which board fworks best for you... There'll be the moment you get into real moguls and wish to have the smaller one again
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Your undersizing with your 157 @ 210+

I know the feeling though, sometimes I'm all smiles on my low end 161 K2 Brigade, and sometimes question why I bother goofing about on this 154 Operator, and the Brigade is a piece of shit, it just happens that piece of shit is properly sized for my weight.
Oh you're absolutely right. I knew I was over the specs for a board that size. Oddly tho, after learning to snowboard on that wide Arbor, my riding improved immensely once I got on the shorter boards. I was fortunate that I was able to ride it for a few weeks before buying it from a friend. Wasn't certain I liked it for the first few laps. But the more I rode it, the better I liked it.

I have progressed a lot as far as my speed and control is concerned since I started riding the shorter boards. (...Getting to ride something besides slab ice and snowcrete these last two seasons may have played a part as well!)

But since I still have only very limited experience with riding different boards and even terrain and conditions, I was amazed by the difference that riding the Arbor made in feeling confident and riding in control on some challenging & difficult conditions.

I still need to acquire a lot more experience using different rides in different conditions to know when to choose what type board. (...it's also nice to know I have progressed enough that I can manage to stay up & on a board that is less than ideal for the conditions.) It's no wonder so many of you guys have so many different decks.
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Is that the 2013/2014 Proto?
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Is that the 2013/2014 Proto?
No, 20th anniversary edition. I believe that was the '11/12 model.
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try something like a 162 with a healthy slathering of red wax, it'll be better
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I find sizing to largely be a matter of personal preference. I rode most of this season hovering around 200 pounds and rode everything between 157 and 164 and had fun on all of them, but spent most of my time on 157 riding it on pretty much all days with less than a foot of pow.
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try something like a 162 with a healthy slathering of red wax, it'll be better
I have been thinking about what type of board I would like to get next. I keep going back and forth between wanting another full camber ride, (...although a reg width one this time) possibly another hybrid profile like RCR, with camber between the bindings instead of CRC. I have even considered maybe trying one of the full rocker boards I've read some good reviews on. Like the Marhar Throwback.

Regardless of which way I go, after this eye opening experience this last weekend. I think I might get something in the 160-64 range. Since I've already got two short boards. (159 & 157cm)


Oh, neni! It may be some time before I'm ready for real moguls. For whatever reason, I can manage ok in the irregular push piled bumps, even when the entire run is full of them. But in those even, regularly spaced mogul fields? I can't keep the rythym and timing down. (...Proly why I'm such a lousy dancer too!) I get out of sync and launched off the top after a turn or two every time!
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I highly suggest a RCR board. I love that camber profile. The stability of camber between the bindings, but the playfulness and float in the tips. My main board is a 157 Capita DBX which is a mid-stiff RCR board. It rides smaller than it actually is in the trees when you need to be nimble, but rides like a 160+ in powder and on groomers when you need to bomb. Just a sick board. I ride it for everything except deep pow days.
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