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Old 02-27-2009, 05:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, so I know there are a lot of people out there who have discovered the wonders of the Under Armor hood. I myself like them a lot. But I have a few problems with them.

First, they typically allow air into the mask through the gaps created by the nose bridge. Works great for football. But when you start snowboarding, those gaps are closed off by the goggles. This means two things. It can be hard to breathe when you are really exerting yourself and your goggles can become fogged by your hot breath entering from the bottom. In addition, I find they do not move far enough down the neck to keep heat in. A mask which tucks into the shirt would be infinitely better for staying warm.

So here is my solution.

My dog recently ate one of my UA masks. Chewed the crap out of the back of the hood. So I took it in stride and tried an experiment. First, I sewed in a thin layer of suede around the eyes where the goggles contact the mask. Air no longer travels into the goggles through the mask as the suede is air tight and water resistant. I also cut three small holes over the mouth and reinforced them so it would be easier to breathe but would not allow in too much cold air. The reinforcing threads keep the material from tearing apart and keep its elasticity. I also extended the neck. I did not have the UA material so I just used a cotton T, but it was just a prototype.

So basically it has the same functionality as a UA hood, but is customized for snowboarding. I can't try it out since the back of the head is missing, but what do you guys think? Sound good? Should I try it on my GOOD UA hood?

I've never found anything that works as well as the UA hood so I figured that I might as well customize it for snowboarding. Here is my big question. Is it something you guys would buy if it works like I say? I'm not starting a business, but I'd love to make something snowboarders could really use and I think this thing has potential.

Thanks for any and all feedback. Especially you, Sedition, since I know you're as big a fan of the UA hood as I am.

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Old 02-27-2009, 06:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok, so I know there are a lot of people out there who have discovered the wonders of the Under Armor hood. I myself like them a lot. But I have a few problems with them.

First, they typically allow air into the mask through the gaps created by the nose bridge. Works great for football. But when you start snowboarding, those gaps are closed off by the goggles. This means two things. It can be hard to breathe when you are really exerting yourself and your goggles can become fogged by your hot breath entering from the bottom. In addition, I find they do not move far enough down the neck to keep heat in. A mask which tucks into the shirt would be infinitely better for staying warm.

So here is my solution.

My dog recently ate one of my UA masks. Chewed the crap out of the back of the hood. So I took it in stride and tried an experiment. First, I sewed in a thin layer of suede around the eyes where the goggles contact the mask. Air no longer travels into the goggles through the mask as the suede is air tight and water resistant. I also cut three small holes over the mouth and reinforced them so it would be easier to breathe but would not allow in too much cold air. The reinforcing threads keep the material from tearing apart and keep its elasticity. I also extended the neck. I did not have the UA material so I just used a cotton T, but it was just a prototype.

So basically it has the same functionality as a UA hood, but is customized for snowboarding. I can't try it out since the back of the head is missing, but what do you guys think? Sound good? Should I try it on my GOOD UA hood?

I've never found anything that works as well as the UA hood so I figured that I might as well customize it for snowboarding. Here is my big question. Is it something you guys would buy if it works like I say? I'm not starting a business, but I'd love to make something snowboarders could really use and I think this thing has potential.

Thanks for any and all feedback. Especially you, Sedition, since I know you're as big a fan of the UA hood as I am.

Sounds like a decent idea. You named all my issues with the UA hood. Sounds like it would make a good experiment. I would try something like that for sure. It does sound like it has a good amount of potential just might take a bit of tweaking here and there. Would say go ahead and try to make a functioning one and see how it goes.
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Also, not sure if there is anything like this, but I wanted to make one with a reinforced hole in the back for my wife. She can't use a UA hood because it doesn't fit well with her hair. I figure with a hole in the back she can feed a pony tail through.
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First, I sewed in a thin layer of suede around the eyes where the goggles contact the mask. Air no longer travels into the goggles through the mask as the suede is air tight and water resistant. I also cut three small holes over the mouth and reinforced them so it would be easier to breathe but would not allow in too much cold air. The reinforcing threads keep the material from tearing apart and keep its elasticity. I also extended the neck. I did not have the UA material so I just used a cotton T, but it was just a prototype.
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It's up to you tho. If it's that much of an improvement, go for it. Just make sure you don't end up with a gimp mask. I've got a turtle hood, but I only use it when it's freezing balls off.
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I like the sound of it. I'd like to see some pics but I'd be interested.
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It looks the exact same as an Under Armor mask which you can see me wearing in my avatar. The holes are very small, I'm talking tip-of-a-pencil small. I don't want big hole in the front because it would let in too much cold air.
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Alright I get ya. So here is the UA Hood.





I usually wear my bacalava thing with my helmet and I don't have a ton of problems with fogging, but it is really kind of cumbersome and bunches up. If you can do something that is thin and goes all the way down to you neck, that'd be pretty cool.
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Interesting. I have never really had any issue with the UA hood causing my goggles to fog up, provided that I keep the top of my jacket open a touch. If I zip my jacket *all* the way up, then the warm air from body temp only has one place to go; up, and directly into your goggles.

That said, yes, the UA hood is too short for "real" winter sports. It need to be longer. Also, the main reason I switched over to the UA hood from the Sirius (sp) face mask was because the UA had no mouth holes. Yeah, I know those are supposed to help with breathing and fog, but in reality they just made my lower face really cold, while the rest of my head was warm. I've never had much trouble breathing with the UA hood on the slopes, but I have certainly had that problem on my bike. I still bike around Boston during the winter, and rock the UA hood for that when it is really cold/windy outside (which is most of winter here). So yes, I can relate. And yes, I would like a better product, but the UA hood is the best one out there by far at the moment (and I've tried like almost everyt other option)

So, how noticable of a difference do the breathing holes make? I like that idea. I want air, but don't want cold. There has to be a way to cover both. As for making them longer, what about using like the lower half of another UA hood so you could get the same material?
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I usually wear my bacalava thing with my helmet...but it is really kind of cumbersome and bunches up.
I assume you don't have the UA hood then?
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Nah I don't have a hood.
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