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Old 08-30-2014, 10:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You speak a lot of sense... thanks. The job itself is alright but the hours and stress are pretty insane. Even on the days I get off on time I barely have the energy for anything fun (not that there's alot of opportunity for it).
I guess the problem is that I am stuck at the bottom rung of a training ladder which is years long before it improves.
Maybe I should look into other jobs but it wouldn't solve the problem of lack of sports without moving away tbh.

Right now being a chalet bitch at a french resort seems so appealing!
Hrm being a doctor still in training makes it tricky to change things. You kind of get stuck in that whole problem of 'I've spent too much time and money in this to just leave it', plus if you do tough it out there are some good options at the end of the road.

My sister did that whole route and now she's a radiologist earning bank with pretty good work hours (I suppose radiology is like the dentistry of medicine - earn a lot without the stressful hours), but I also know she was 30 before she finished all the specialized training and got that level of freedom and money.

I suppose one option is you could tough it out 2 more years and move afterwards to a better city/environment to finish anymore training you need to do.

If it makes you feel better, I know people who have been in similar positions but managed to work their way through it and now love their life.

One of my friends went through a year of pre-dentistry grad school, then 3 years of dentistry, took a year off because he had cancer and had to undergo chemotherapy, beat the cancer and came back only to realize he couldn't stand dentistry. He then studied engineering for 3 years before finally graduating at 27.

After all of that ordeal of toughing his way through Uni, he managed to get a 6 figure job working in the mines with large guaranteed raises every year and he works 7 days on, 7 days off (meaning he gets 1 week paid vacation to do whatever he wants every second week). He now spends his free time buying and riding high end motorbikes during his off week.
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Old 08-30-2014, 10:08 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'll preface my reply by stating that most of the knowledge that I have about the medical field is from shows like House and ER so I maybe off base.

I'm not sure how things work in England but it sounds like you're still in medical school. Here in the states it usually takes 4 years to finish college and then at least another 4 years to complete medical school so I don't think there are too many 23 year old doctors here.

I'm guessing that you knew about the long hours before you decided to go into the medical field or did it come as a surprise? It's easy to tell people what they should do but if I were you I'd suck it up for two years and finish medical school. Hit up as any 5 day snowboard trips as you can (I'm guessing the resorts in France are the closest) to try to keep progressing and once you can move go for it. You're only 23 and once you can practice as a doctor you could move just about anywhere you want and live a great lifestyle - don't be short sighted. However, if you're truly having second thoughts about your profession, then you need to find something that makes you happy.

I think Argo is in the medical field so I'm guessing he will have some good advice.
Hey bud. Yeah it's pretty different in the UK as we go straight from "high school" into medical school... I qualified as a Doctor aged 22 and have been working for just over a year. Think that's virtually impossible in the states.

The problem is (and I believe this is the same in the states) that we have to do foundation years (residency years USA?) before we can move anywhere. To be fully employable abroad will take a fair few years.

And yup, France is the best/closest which is another problem. I would need fluent french (including medical jargon french) to even be considered for a job over there and I'll probably be around 30 when I'll be employable there.
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Old 08-30-2014, 10:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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As a doctor you could pretty much work anywhere. I'd say you'd have to be nuts to jack it in, join one of the UK forums like scuk and you'll meet people to go snowboarding with. I know people in the northwest who head up to Scotland loads during the winter you just need to make the effort to meet people.
Yeah, maybe that's a good interim plan. Try and meet some guys to hit Scotland with every now and then. Scotland is not good riding but it's certainly better than nothing!

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That's amazing man. You in the states I'm guessing? What kind of medicine? Bit trickier for me as there are no English ski resorts so only way to move would be to fluently learn French, Swiss or Austrian and take the French or Swiss medical exams. I'm sire you'll appreciate that medical terms take enough learning even in English ha

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Hrm being a doctor still in training makes it tricky to change things. You kind of get stuck in that whole problem of 'I've spent too much time and money in this to just leave it', plus if you do tough it out there are some good options at the end of the road.

My sister did that whole route and now she's a radiologist earning bank with pretty good work hours (I suppose radiology is like the dentistry of medicine - earn a lot without the stressful hours), but I also know she was 30 before she finished all the specialized training and got that level of freedom and money.

If it makes you feel better, I know people who have been in similar positions but managed to work their way through it and now love their life.

One of my friends went through a year of pre-dentistry grad school, then 3 years of...
Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head man. Guess I feel a bit trapped in it at this stage. Like you said with your sister, it's planning/looking forward to 7-years time when I can then start living. May as well write off my twenties ha.

But yeah, I guess it's pretty normal to feel a bit lost at this point in life.

Appreciate all your guys help. Like I said, I have plenty of pals here in England it's just that very few of them have a passion for a sport/hobby (other than drinking ). They're quite happy working through the week and then binge drinking Friday/Saturday which I'm pretty much done with after Uni finished.
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Either you want to do it or you don't. Of you don't, you will keep thinking of excuses not to, like language barriers. If you do want it, you Will get to taking classes and do some educating on what it takes to move/get somewhere you want to be and you will make it happen. There are plenty of online resources to learn French, German, Italian.....

It doesn't matter what the differences are from country to country or region to region. Everyone from CEOs to doctors to bartenders has some barrier, it's a matter of willingness to overcome that barrier and reach your goal.

I knew what I wanted at a late age and went back to school for nursing at 26 with 3 kids and a wife with mortgages and bills. I didn't think of how hard it was at the time, I knew I wanted to live somewhere nice and live comfortably without the worries of bills or going bankrupt. Graduated nursing school at 30, got experience and moved here at 34. This is year 4 for me living slope side.

Set the goal and attain it, nothing that's easy to obtain is worth much.....

I work in surgery, everyone pictured works with me, surgeon/anesthesiology/OR-RN. My hospital is at the mountain base so it could be any service line......
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Scotland has got some epic terrain you just need to know where to go, Nevis Range has some off the best off piste in europe on a good day.
Some of my best days riding have been in scotland even when conditions are crap you just need to meet some people to board with then even a rubbish day on the hill can be a laugh..
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Check out meetup.com to see if there is a snowboarding group to join in your area. If not, start one up!
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Old 08-30-2014, 12:12 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I know the medical field is quite different in the uk as far as practicing is concerned. So argos post may or may not be anectdotal.
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Old 08-30-2014, 12:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I think the issue of career has been covered nicely.
So I will speak to meeting ppl which was covered and I have spoken to in threads before.
You find local forums like this in the UK, FB pages for resorts that you can go riding at (close enough for you to frequent, schedule allowing) and you start chatting in threads, and via PM's. I have made many good friends that I ride with on this forum. PalmerFreak and I are planning to take some laps together this season. We have never met, I reached out to him and hopefully we can get some slope time together.
I have done this with many others on here and FB and have made some good friends I see year round and some just during the riding season but we will still stay in touch via FB, texts or phone calls.

So the excuse, "you have no mates to ride with" is easily over come. I'll throw this out there as well. I'm far from the average ride 46yr old, dad of 3 just started riding a few years ago. If I can make friends I'm assured you can do it much more easily than I.....so, much like many of the previous posts. Don't make excuses, meet some ppl and plan some riding together and enjoy what ever time your schedule will allow you to ride.
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I know the medical field is quite different in the uk as far as practicing is concerned. So argos post may or may not be anectdotal.
Doesn't really matter where or what the job is. It's a transferable professional position that will make a decent living wherever he wants it to. Just has to want to do it in the right place bad enough once he does what he needs to to qualify.....
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