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I put about 40-45k a year on my truck. I have only changed the oil every 20k miles and tires once. Pretty damn reliable. I love my truck, i also love that my wife and i can sleep in the bed comfortably when we are out in the middle of no where on hiking and camping trips. The hard camper shell keeps the cougars/bears/meth heads away just long enough to pull my .45 out....

I have been a truck guy my whole life and it has taken alot for me to conceed that I would drive a Subi. The hatchback wrx/sti is a very capable and great looking car. It almost hurts to say that i would drive one.
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I drove up i70 my first day of work in all season tires in 8" of snow, effectively pushing it uphill in my civic. Now that day, sure, a couple inches that a Suby or truck offers would be better. However in every amount of snow less than that, my civic with snow tires will outperform a truck (ill give a 4x4 truck WITH snowtires a slight advantage, however I rarely see someone in a truck bother with snowtires). FWIW I haven't seen that much snow on i70 in 5 years, and when there was, it was closed.
Im sorry dude but you need to reevaluate your opinions here. A truck does not offer a couple more inches than a subie or your civic...it offers atleast a foot of extra clearance. My front bumper is 2 feet off the ground, if you were snowplowing with 8" on the ground then thats triple your front end clearance. And again you have to be kidding yourself if you think that your front wheel drive civic out performs a 4wd truck anywhere. Its just not a logical statement whatsoever. My truck with bald ass tires will do better in the snow than your civic on the best snow tires you have. People do not put winter tires on their trucks because it is unnecessary, they have All Terrain tires, which do phenominal in the snow. They have a tighter tread pattern and have deep ass tread, and have good sidewall tread. Dedicated snow tires are great on a car, but some good All Terrains are great on a truck. Thats great that you guys have a great plow system, but roads here don't really close with 8", and often the plows dont get around to clear everything till long after I or many others have already traveled them.

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Freshies I think you maybe missed my other more recent post.

We really aren't disagreeing here.

I love trucks, I keep trying to justify getting one, but I just can't get around the mpg thing. I appreciate you guys trying to talk me into it.

My Hondas are still awesome. Not sure I understand the need to shit on it. FWD works well in the snow you know?

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4x4 Trucks rule and civics stuck in 2" of snow drool.....
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Freshies I think you maybe missed my other more recent post.

We really aren't disagreeing here.

I love trucks, I keep trying to justify getting one, but I just can't get around the mpg thing. I appreciate you guys trying to talk me into it.

My Hondas are still awesome. Not sure I understand the need to shit on it. FWD works well in the snow you know? Maybe I'm just in the wrong $$ bracket?
It is very possible. And your welcome for us trying to persuade you
The bad mpg does suck a lot though haha. I just tell myself and it becomes justified when I really use it and need it and it gets me through anything (on and off road).

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It is very possible. And your welcome for us trying to persuade you
The bad mpg does suck a lot though haha. I just tell myself and it becomes justified when I really use it and need it and it gets me through anything (on and off road).

I stopped caring about fuel prices and economy about 7 years ago but wouldn't own a truck that got under 15 mpg. I bike ride a lot more now or walk to work. In the winter I will ride the bus when I can too.
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Hell I could probably smoke and drink a little less and afford it, you guys are convincing me! Maybe I take the civic in tomorow for a trade in LOL.

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Here is my outback after one night up on Hood.
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The outback is one exception to the subi family with regards to clearance issues. They have like 12" of clearance and awd. Great vehicle but for the money I'd rather keep my truck cause they are ugly. I'd rather have the wry/sti hatchback with adjustable air ride suspension to jack it up as needed if I went with a subi and wanted the clearance of a truck. You should show the plowed road that sits 1' in front of your car.....
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