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post #1021 of 1985 (permalink) Old 10-15-2012, 01:54 PM
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Hell I could probably smoke and drink a little less and afford it, you guys are convincing me! Maybe I take the civic in tomorow for a trade in LOL.
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Hell I could probably smoke and drink a little less and afford it, you guys are convincing me! Maybe I take the civic in tomorow for a trade in LOL.
Dude, do it now! Throw on some meaty A/T tires and you will be so pleased with how well it will do. You will be able to get through just about anything, then the first time you see a civic spinning its tires trying to leave the parking lot you will wonder why you didn't get a 4x4 sooner lol!

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I love trucks, I keep trying to justify getting one, but I just can't get around the mpg thing. I appreciate you guys trying to talk me into it.
You guys pay for your own gas?!?

Sure FWD is better than RWD in the snow (assuming all other things are equal), but 4WD/AWD is better yet again.

I agree that two identical cars, using the same tires, regardless of drivetrain, will take the same distance to stop unless one is lighter.

But there are so many variables when comparing cars you can't simply say that a light civic with snow tires is better than X 4WD car with snow tires, or Y Truck with snow tires.

BTW people, the solution is to get a job where your vehicle and fuel are included.
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Thank you!

If I didn't build my Orange Jeep I was going to build an FJ

I am a Vermonter living in California showing the locals how to keep it real!
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To the rest of you complaining about a car vs a truck vs a jeep vs a suv..


I don't care what you drive as long as you drive for the conditions you are in.


I've seen so many people off the road in every vehicle imaginable because they think their vehicle is somehow outside the laws of physics.


Drive too fast and break/turn too hard... have fun in that ditch.



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To make another point. I don't care what you drive. I will stop and pull you out if my Jeep and/or winch can handle it.


I've missed an avi gate because I stopped to pull a FJ and a STI out of the ditch on 88.


I will gladly add a shitty drive on 50 and a possible night in south lake to my drive if it means getting someone out of trouble and making sure they don't spend the night freezing in a car.

I am a Vermonter living in California showing the locals how to keep it real!
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To make another point. I don't care what you drive. I will stop and pull you out if my Jeep and/or winch can handle it.

I've missed an avi gate because I stopped to pull a FJ and a STI out of the ditch on 88.

I will gladly add a shitty drive on 50 and a possible night in south lake to my drive if it means getting someone out of trouble and making sure they don't spend the night freezing in a car.
to you, that's the right attitude. When I lived in SLT, I would always tow people out of ditches or embankments just because it felt like the right thing to do. I even let some college kids crash at my house one night when they flipped their car on it's side near my house during a big snow storm and they couldn't get a tow truck to come out until the next morning.

Still, it was always annoying when I had to help people because their vehicles were clearly not capable of handling the conditions. Be it a front-wheel drive Camry with poorly-attached snow chains, or the (VERY common) SUV on summer tires, it never ceases to amaze just how invincible drivers think they are, no matter the weather and road conditions.
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One of my friends (who is still the best snowboarder I personally know) used to drive a Miata all year round. Snowboard was in the passenger sheet.

I train every day of my life as they have never trained a day in theirs. Alexander Karelin
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One of my friends (who is still the best snowboarder I personally know) used to drive a Miata all year round. Snowboard was in the passenger sheet.
Back in 1999 when I was 16 (whoa) I drove a 94 jeep wrangler with half doors and a soft top. I'd buckle my snowboard into the passenger seat every saturday and sunday when I went to the mountain.

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To make another point. I don't care what you drive. I will stop and pull you out if my Jeep and/or winch can handle it.


I've missed an avi gate because I stopped to pull a FJ and a STI out of the ditch on 88.


I will gladly add a shitty drive on 50 and a possible night in south lake to my drive if it means getting someone out of trouble and making sure they don't spend the night freezing in a car.
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