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post #911 of 1973 (permalink) Old 08-22-2012, 01:41 PM
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1. my '99 Civic SI performs extremely well in snow, has relatively low miles, is EXTREMELY rare (try to buy one), and has lost very little value over time. It's only caveat, why I'm looking at a truck is I need trailworthiness for trailhead access.
LOL! Sorry bud, but a 99 Civic SI is not "extremely rare" or worth much. It's a reliable little commuter car. You are right about the fact that it is a bad choice for a vehicle to make frequent trips up the hill in snowy weather.
2. I drive 30 miles each way to work everyday, and further than that on my days off, so the mileage adds up quick.

3. Does the slight advantage in the toyo mpg worth it for all these miles over an f-150? I do like the f-150 alot. What about a 4cyl toyo? Do they even have that in 4wd?
If you are set on a truck and care about MPG, get a Tacoma. It will outlast any F-150, get better mpg, will hold it's value much better, and will end up costing you less in maintenance/repairs long-term. I have owned a few Toyota 4x4s, and can tell you that they are pretty much bulletproof with basic maintenance.
4. Should I crush my truck dreams because of all these miles, drive my SI into the ground and just get another lil 2wd wonder with snowtires - fuck I'd go hybrid?
Why don't you keep your Civic for your daily commute and get a truck for your trips up the hill?
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Oh, right. Their new "eco-boost" engine. That thing is pretty rad
Snowklinger: My ideal combo as far as vehicles go is: F-150 and a motorcycle. Motorcycle will be my awesome, fun MPG ride and the truck will be used for trips to the desert, mx track when I get a dirtbike, mountains, trips to home depot, etc. The moto I want should be $8,000 out the door or I could go with a 250cc sport bike and it'll be around $5,000 out the door for a 70-something mpg ride. For me, I'm going with the smallest engine for the truck since I'm not going to be hauling/carrying a shit-ton for work or anything. A 4x4 2.7L, 4-speed auto is 18/21 and a 4x4 F-150 with 3.7L engine(6-speed auto) is 16/21.
Having owned a lot of boosted cars, they may claim that they offer better mileage, but in truth boost is so addictive you'll be playing with the throttle all the time and drinking the gas.

Oh yeah and on the bike end of things, I owned a Yamaha FZ6 and an R1, and after selling them I borrowed a friends brand new Ninja 250 for a group ride. That thing was a blast! However, I'd feel more comfortable on something a little bigger. Maybe a used Ninja 500 or something. My FZ6 ran a 12.0 second flat 1/4 mile with me driving, and got great mileage.

If I were buying a bike again today, I'd think long and hard about an FZ8 Fazer8 or whatever they're calling it.
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Having owned a lot of boosted cars, they may claim that they offer better mileage, but in truth boost is so addictive you'll be playing with the throttle all the time and drinking the gas.

Oh yeah and on the bike end of things, I owned a Yamaha FZ6 and an R1, and after selling them I borrowed a friends brand new Ninja 250 for a group ride. That thing was a blast! However, I'd feel more comfortable on something a little bigger. Maybe a used Ninja 500 or something. My FZ6 ran a 12.0 second flat 1/4 mile with me driving, and got great mileage.

If I were buying a bike again today, I'd think long and hard about an FZ8 Fazer8 or whatever they're calling it.
Hahah, I hear you on the boost thing. First, it was the Ninja 250 & the CBR250r comparison(I would go with the more modern Honda) and then someone told me about the 2012 Ninja 650 (649cc parallel twin engine) and I fell in love. I'm not interested in a 'supersport' as a first bike.



I'm leaning hard on the Kawa. 650 but the Honda is still appealing to me. Would be a great bike to learn on with the lighter weight n' all but something a little bigger is always nice too. Things should be clearer after an MSF course.
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Hahah, I hear you on the boost thing. First, it was the Ninja 250 & the CBR250r comparison(I would go with the more modern Honda) and then someone told me about the 2012 Ninja 650 (649cc parallel twin engine) and I fell in love. I'm not interested in a 'supersport' as a first bike.
The Yamaha FZ6 and FZ8 are in the same catagory as the Ninja 650. They're sport-touring bikes with an emphasis on the sport side. Very comfortable for long rides (I used to ride the FZ6 EVERYWHERE, did 18,000 km in one year and that was all joyriding trips), lots of power, large fuel tank, etc.

I loved my FZ6 and in some ways while the R1 was more refined and massively more powerful, it made me miss the FZ6 for long rides!
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Ah, yes I had to look up the Fz6 since it sounded so familiar. It didn't interest me a really long time ago, most likely because of looks haha. I'll have to see how the FZ6 compares to the Kawa. but I LOVE the re-disigned 2012 & 2013 650's. I've sat on my cousin's Honda CBR600rr and I'm on the very tips of my toes so the lower seat height is very welcome I plan on doing plenty of joyrides on my bike so the comfort of the Kawa & Yamaha are great things.
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I am having a real struggle with this debate as well.

1. my '99 Civic SI performs extremely well in snow, has relatively low miles, is EXTREMELY rare (try to buy one), and has lost very little value over time. It's only caveat, why I'm looking at a truck is I need trailworthiness for trailhead access.

If you are looking for trail worthiness in a truck, a 1st or 2nd gen taco are really your best bet. No other pick up can match the all around level of off road prowess the taco has.


2. I drive 30 miles each way to work everyday, and further than that on my days off, so the mileage adds up quick.
Keep the civic for DD, and get a truck to play with. Mpg in any truck will suck ass and destroy the wallet
3. Does the slight advantage in the toyo mpg worth it for all these miles over an f-150? I do like the f-150 alot. What about a 4cyl toyo? Do they even have that in 4wd?

Yes, they do have a 4wd 4cyl taco. However if you want a locking rear diff (must have for off roading and best factory feature of the tacoma) you have to get the v6 for the off road package (both in 1st and 2nd gen). As far as 4 banger taco vs v6 taco, the mpg will end up being the same because the 4 cyl has to work harder to move the truck. Driving habits and how heavily you mod it will be the biggest factor in mpg.

As far as taco vs f-150 it depends on what your uses and budget is. If you don't need to haul anything over 6500 the 2nd gen v6 will suit your needs perfectly and get the same or better mpg and will be a better off roader and more reliable truck.
4. Should I crush my truck dreams because of all these miles, drive my SI into the ground and just get another lil 2wd wonder with snowtires - fuck I'd go hybrid?


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Someone here needs to buy the Raptor

I drove in front of that thing and it looked mean in my rear-view mirror!
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Not exactly ideal for snowy conditions (to be fair that's not much of a problem here in the UK) but here's my car

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Not exactly ideal for snowy conditions (to be fair that's not much of a problem here in the UK) but here's my car

Awh, there's no "drool" smilies haha. Sweet, sweet car there. I don't care much for cars in general but love old muscle cars and some of the higher end ones. It gets boring looking at Camry's & Prius' out on the freeway.
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Thanks dude, just imported it from Washington, a 1972 Chevy Nova if you're interested. Was actually looking for something a bit more sensible after i sold my '66 mustang but couldn't resist this after i watched Death Proof ha ha.
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