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I couldn't find a great section to throw this post, so I guess general chat it is.

I'm a big guy, during the end of the season I was 293 lb in the mornings and probably over 300 lb geared up and on the hill.

I still rip it and ride at the same pace as the guys half my age and weight, but I have the big 4-0 approaching next season and I want to to be in peak shape when I get there.

I figure, if I'm riding at my level when I'm this big then how much better will it be riding at 220 or my peak fitness weight of 205? Besides riding, I need to get to a healthy weight for health reasons that I won't bore people with here.

So this thread is basically my written log of the journey. Other big guys that want to commit to hitting next season in peak shape, feel free to join in. Maybe a crew of guys with the same goal will help push us.


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Date: April 1, 2016
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Goals

Opening Day 2016 (November 2016): 220 lb
40th Birthday (Mid February 2017): 205 lb


Plan

I'm pretty fit for a big guy, a lot of my bulk is muscle and I can put in a lot of miles and vert when riding, and my cardio is surprisingly good considering the weight. I joke that I might be the fittest 300 pounder not playing in college football or the NFL. Because activity isn't the issue, I know that my eating and beer drinking is the thing.

So, 2000 calories a day is my limit. I'm not worrying TOO much about how I get there, but I will make healthy choices when I can. I just really need to stay in the 2000 cal zone.

I also planning on working out or mountain bike riding 2-3 times a week to keep myself in snowboard shape.
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2000 is pretty low for a guy your size, even if weight loss is the goal. Do you know your body fat %? Do you really believe it's around 50%? Or are you intending to lose muscle weight too?
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I have a scale that tells me, but I haven't looked in a really long time. I know that 220-225 is my "normal" weight when I'm not trying to be cut, so I know I'm off the charts for fat percentage at 290+

I used a website to determine my cal requirements, if I remember right it said 1800-2100 for a guy at 220 that works in an office to lose weight.

You might have a point, I lost 4 lbs the first week and my goal is to lose slower- 2 pounds a week.

I'll start tracking body fat percentage too, and take a closer look at cal requirements. Thanks, Deac.
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2000 is too low for a guy your size. You are losing both fat and muscle at that rate.
I would not try to lose more than 10 lbs per month.

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Glad you started this thread. I want to do something about improving my general conditioning and trading back sum of the fat that replaced muscle during my recovery from the back injury.

You mentioned The possibility of hooking up to do something during the phenomenal waste of time during the "not snowboarding" part of the year!

I was going to ask you if you had a mountain bike or something like that to see if maybe that was something you wanted to try and get together to do. I have two mountain bike racks for my Yakima bars, so we could mount them up & go ride any number of paved or dirt trails around here.

Shoot me a text if that's something you'd be interested in doing.

I would also just like to add that I tend to agree with Deacon about that daily calorie intake goal. You are very tall & pretty solidly built even @ 290!! (...if you recall, I was quite shocked when you told me how much you weigh!). You are not soft n pudgy (like I am) and all that muscle you do have is an efficient calorie burning furnace. 2000 calories may just be way too little for you. So don't be discouraged if you find you can't stick to such an extreme cut in your intake!

I want/need to drop about 35-40 lbs. ...currently bouncing between 235 & 240 give or take a few lbs. (...I'll settle for 30!). So I'm willing to commit to a fittness regime with you if you're game! LMK if/how you'd like to coordinate that!
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You guys that have never dealt with genetics can't imagine what it is like to eat 2000-2200 calories a day and gain weight. I have lived this life, still do. I track my intake regularly and have been maintaining my current weight for the past 2 months at 1500-1800 calories a day. I'm of equal size to sab. I know to lose weight I have to be active and eat 1200 calories or less. That is just the way my body works.

Thinking that what your body needs is the same as anyone else's is asinine.
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2000 is too low for a guy your size. You are losing both fat and muscle at that rate.
I would not try to lose more than 10 lbs per month.
Yeah, I'm only aiming for 8-10 lbs a month.

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You guys that have never dealt with genetics can't imagine what it is like to eat 2000-2200 calories a day and gain weight. I have lived this life, still do. I track my intake regularly and have been maintaining my current weight for the past 2 months at 1500-1800 calories a day. I'm of equal size to sab. I know to lose weight I have to be active and eat 1200 calories or less. That is just the way my body works.

Thinking that what your body needs is the same as anyone else's is asinine.
Maybe your body is made of magic. If I eat less than 2000 at 150lbs, I will be dropping weight at 1 lbs per day.
Were you born with a nuclear reactor or something because clearly you use calories very efficiently.
But 2000 calories for a person thats about 150lbs is about maintenance level meaning no gain, no loss. If you are lighter than that, you will gain weight eating 2000 calories. If you are heavier, you will lose weight. It's that simple.
Without knowing how heavy you are, its hard to determine if 2000 calories a day is good for you.
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
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Argo brought up a great point about genetics.

While I did look up my cal requirements online, it was mainly to confirm my thought that 2000 was my goal and that was based on my personal experience. Historically I weigh about 10% of my caloric average intake. If I'm eating 2000 then I'll drift towards the low-200s, if I'm eating 2500 then my weight will drift to the mid-200s. I've never been this heavy though, so I've either gotten crazy and began killing 3000 cals a day or my metabolism slowed down.

I'm hoping and betting that it's the former, and getting back in the 2000 range will bring me back home.

I definitely don't want to lose muscle though..

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You guys that have never dealt with genetics can't imagine what it is like to eat 2000-2200 calories a day and gain weight. I have lived this life, still do. I track my intake regularly and have been maintaining my current weight for the past 2 months at 1500-1800 calories a day. I'm of equal size to sab. I know to lose weight I have to be active and eat 1200 calories or less. That is just the way my body works.

Thinking that what your body needs is the same as anyone else's is asinine.


Holy Crap Argo!!! All your posts suggest you are an extremely active guy! You REALLY manage to survive on so few calories???? I'd waste away in 6 months on that!!

And just as in Sab's case,.. When we met I could see you werent sum scrawny,.. Veggy nibbling hipster! You're a good sized dude,... But I never would have pegged you (..or Sab) in that 250+ weight range!!!

That has to be tough to do! Mad respect for being able to stick with it!

Ppl are usually surprised when they learn my actual weight, (even when I was @ 315lbs!) But I'm "Tall in the Saddle!" Long torso, relatively short legs. So I spread most of that weight out between my hips n shoulders! Rather than having a HUGE belly. Plus I had massively muscled thighs n calves,.. So lots of weight density there as well!

It's good you chimed in Argo because I agree that all those supposed "scales 'n charts" are sooo widely generic! I got down to 195 from 315 in less that eight months. I was lifting n riding mtb, as well as lots of kayak paddling. I went from a tight 44 waist to a 34 that was starting to get loose,... And Those body fat charts STILL listed me as obese!! 6'- 195 lbs Obese???? Bullshit!

At the same time, My friends & family were starting to think I'd gone anorexic! (...I even got asked by a co-worker if I was "On the Pipe!") LoL!

Sab,.. You'll find the balance that works for you. Dont worry about charts n scales n shit!

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