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Old 01-16-2010, 06:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Has a snowboarder ever jumped off a ski jump?

With all this Olympic BS going on it somehow got me wondering why I have never seen a snowboarder go off the big ski jump. Also with the freestyle skiing jump, why arent there riders who do some crazy flipping twisting thing off the same hit.
The only reason I can come up with is the difference of stance, but seems like there should be some crazy mofos that would attempt or even go farther/higher than their skiing counterparts.
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Old 01-16-2010, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Which ski jump are you talking about? The long jump, jumps in the mougles, or the aerials jumps?
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Talking about the long jump as you put it, and the aerial jump.
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Skiers don't do crazy off axis rotations and grabs in the aerials because that isn't how they are judged. If you put one of those into your run the judges wouldn't know how to judge it so you would lose. Just like with gymnastics or figure skating. Every now and then a new move will come in but it is about performing known moves perfectly. Innovation is frowned upon.

For the long jump. It's not really a jump. The take off is flat and the ground drops away. The skiers are basicly gliding in the air on their skis. I doubt a snowboarder could get anywhere near it at the risk of screwing up the grooming of it. Would be cool to see though.
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Cool idea. I'd love to see a rider take on a K125 hill. I wonder how many spins would be possible with that much hang time.

Has a rider ever used the jumps used for skiing Aerial competitions? Huge amount of WU on those.

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The only reason I can come up with is the difference of stance, but seems like there should be some crazy mofos that would attempt or even go farther/higher than their skiing counterparts.
It wouldn't be possible for a rider to come close to a skier when jumping for distance.

A skier in a delta v uses the surface area of their body in combination with the skis to become a single lifting body while in the air. The free heel bindings used allow them to lean forward and between their ski tips. A boarder could only use the base of their board for lift.

The Ski Flying World Record is 239 metres (780 ft).
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Snowboarders don't do jumps like the Ski Aerials jump because it's designed to launch you up high instead of high and far. The twists ski aerial jumpers do are closer to gymnastics than anything in snowboarding. To me it just looks messy and unattractive.

But Snowboarders huck themselves off of bigger jumps than ski aerial jumps all the time and look better doing it.
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Snowboarders don't do jumps like the Ski Aerials jump because it's designed to launch you up high instead of high and far.
Not much different than a quarter pipe if you think about it.
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Not much different than a quarter pipe if you think about it.
quarter pipes are for riding in and out of the jump and the movements preformed are often simple like a nice method. ski aerials use transitions on the hill. it's a different thing alltogether.
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quarter pipes are for riding in and out of the jump and the movements preformed are often simple like a nice method. ski aerials use transitions on the hill. it's a different thing alltogether.
The shape seems identical, just a touch less vert for the aerials jump. I've seen riders hit a quarter, spin/grab, and land on the back side. It seems reasonable the same could happen off an aerials jump.
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