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Wow, what a difference powder makes

I'm sure that this will come across as news from Captain Obvious but today was the first time I got a chance to snowboard in powder and I had no idea how much of a difference it made.

I have about 4 solid days of snowboarding...I can connect turns but they were typically sketchy and had to go pretty wide. On the blue runs I had to do some falling leafs because I couldn't connect turns for the life of me....and if I did, I would go 30 feet in each direction. lol

Well today we got powder and it changed everything. I was connecting my turns a LOT tighter (4-5ft wide), going a lot faster, and having no issues with connection turns on the blue runs. At the end of the day I did a black diamond and was still able to connect my turns just fine...the day was a literally a whole different experience and a real eye opener.

I know for the experts this is all general knowledge but for the new people that are struggling and never had a chance to try powder, definitely give it a try (and if you have to drive farther to get to powder, make an effort.)

Oh yeah, my rocker board (Ride Machete) was a LOT easier to ride in powder than my friends 2 year old Burton (regular camber). It just seemed to float over stuff and not once did I nosedive...on my friends board I had to really concentrate on maintaining some weight in the rear. I'm sure there is tons of variables in involved (friends binding setup, etc..) but the one thing I will say is that my rocker board was pretty easy to control/a lot of fun.
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I have about 4 solid days of snowboarding...I can connect turns but they were typically sketchy and had to go pretty wide. On the blue runs I had to do some falling leafs because I couldn't connect turns for the life of me....and if I did, I would go 30 feet in each direction. lol
this makes me wonder. ive been learning to board also, and ive had probably four to five 8-hour sessions. im just starting to learn how to turn on my toes, but i can haul ass down a black diamond and double-black (little slower though, haha) just using heel-turns to slow myself down occasionally. funny how people learn. hope i get toe turns down tomorrow.

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Oh yeah, my rocker board (Ride Machete) was a LOT easier to ride in powder than my friends 2 year old Burton (regular camber). It just seemed to float over stuff and not once did I nosedive...on my friends board I had to really concentrate on maintaining some weight in the rear. I'm sure there is tons of variables in involved (friends binding setup, etc..) but the one thing I will say is that my rocker board was pretty easy to control/a lot of fun.
i cant wait for tomorrow. i just bought a new board (gnu park pickle), with the rocker between the bindings. ive been riding rental boards so i cant wait to feel the difference!

we just got fresh snow today, so ill see what you mean about powder.
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I snowboarded when I was younger (like 12+ years ago) so that may have some affect on my riding today.

A week or so ago I was having a lot of trouble going toeside so I finally just paid up and got a 1 hour private lessons...within 10 minutes the instructor caught everything I was doing wrong and I started connecting turns. It was huge for me.

I did a lot of falling leafs on toeside to get used to it too..at first it's a bit odd going down with your back turned.

The big thing about powder is that you can push yourself and try different things...and if you fall it doesn't hurt. You just get back up and keep going. I had a lot more confidence after a few runs because I wasn't worried about having a bad spill on harder ice/snow.
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It all depends on how MUCH powder and what kind of board you are on. Shallow powder makes for some fun times, but riding in powder up to your waist is ridiculous. My legs are usually burning after about 5 mins, but it's so worth it. Of course, if you fall, it takes 10 times the energy to get back on top of the powder.

Last year at Hood they had patrols on some of the runs because people were getting stuck in the 4 feet of powder and couldn't get out. Personally, I thought it was epic.

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yeah, it was shallow but still significant compared to no powder I guess.
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this makes me wonder. ive been learning to board also, and ive had probably four to five 8-hour sessions. im just starting to learn how to turn on my toes, but i can haul ass down a black diamond and double-black (little slower though, haha) just using heel-turns to slow myself down occasionally. funny how people learn. hope i get toe turns down tomorrow.



i cant wait for tomorrow. i just bought a new board (gnu park pickle), with the rocker between the bindings. ive been riding rental boards so i cant wait to feel the difference!

we just got fresh snow today, so ill see what you mean about powder.
If you don't have toe turns down yet, I'd recommend staying off of blacks and certainly double blacks. If you're struggling with toeside turns, you're not going to get them down while trying to get down blacks.

Are we talking western blacks or eastern blacks? Big difference between the two.
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yeah, it was shallow but still significant compared to no powder I guess.
A couple inches of powder to float on can make your day on the mountain. That really is all it takes.

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If you don't have toe turns down yet, I'd recommend staying off of blacks and certainly double blacks. If you're struggling with toeside turns, you're not going to get them down while trying to get down blacks.

Are we talking western blacks or eastern blacks? Big difference between the two.
I was about to say before I read all of your post that it depends on where you are. The black diamonds in Indiana were about as challenging as the parking lot out here in Oregon...

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If you don't have toe turns down yet, I'd recommend staying off of blacks and certainly double blacks. If you're struggling with toeside turns, you're not going to get them down while trying to get down blacks.

Are we talking western blacks or eastern blacks? Big difference between the two.
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I was about to say before I read all of your post that it depends on where you are. The black diamonds in Indiana were about as challenging as the parking lot out here in Oregon...
i live on the west coast. i also dont practice toe-side turns on black diamond runs haha. i usually practice on blue squares, but head over to the black diamonds later when my friends and i get bored.
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What's the difference between eastern and western blacks?
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Eastern blacks are notourious as being over-classified, as blacks on some of the east coast resorts are typically as challenging as blues on the west.
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