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Old 12-23-2007, 05:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys. Saturday way my first day out in quite a while. I was very busy with hockey the last few years and never had time to go snowboarding. My old board outgrew me so for this christmas I put some money toward a new board and am trying to get back into it since I dont play hockey anymore. Well me and my friend went out yesterday and it was sorta brutal. I dont think there was snow on the whole mt/hill that we have. It was all chopy, chunky, ice. Is riding on ice just a learned trait, is it really that hard? I dont remeber having this hard of a time with snowboarding a few years back but I also dont remember it ever being as icy as it was yesterday. Is there a way to combat this? Get the edges done often or what? I also have a toe overhang/ fitting question. My setup right now is a ride mountain 159 w/ ride orion 11 boots, and ride ls large bindings. Is it true some overhang is needed to get on your edges? How much if any overhang should I have? Also should your binding size always match your boot size? The bindings came as a 11 but i changed them to 12 as it seemed to be a better fit for my size 11 boot, yay, nay? My stance angles are set at a mirror duck 9* stance, any thoughts on this? I cant stand alpine stance and I like getting into the park. It seems 15*-15* is pretty common but it seems a little "open" to me? What are some of the benefits to a larger mirror duck stance than my 9*? Thanks for any help and I hope to get out there again soon but we'll see. I found out the hard way that its prolly not best to hit the biggest jump there, thats landing is cement hard, ice on my first day back. God bless hydro tho! Peace.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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you'll learn to ride the ice eventually. It's hard though and takes some practice. Never put down your guard when riding it.
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Old 12-23-2007, 09:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well as far as riding ice, it does just take some practice. Ice can be rough, and very unforgiving. As far as overhang etc. Put your board on the floor/table etc. and strap your boots into it while they aren't on your feet. Ratchet the bindings down somewhat tight or as tight as they might be if you were riding. The boot should be pretty much centered on the board itself looking from tail to nose/nose to tail. I have Ride bindings as well and there are two ways to achieve it. Put the binding plate in the binding so you can adjust the foot bed from side to side (edge to edge) before you fully tighten them, or leave the plates alone and adjust your heelcup/straps. I wouldn't say you need this to make it easier to stay on your edge, but to make it a little less awkward to initiate turns/balance etc. The Rides I bought had instructions showing how to perform all the adjustment. Hope this helps. I had no idea you could actually ride anywhere in Nebraska.

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Old 12-23-2007, 11:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yea the instructions that came with the bindings showed the slots in the plates going parallel to the edges. Although by looking at the degrees on the base plates it looks like you could have the slots going perpandicular to your edges as well, but im just going to stick with the way the instructions showed them going. I never really felt any toe drag, but I also was making and really aggressive carves either. This is also part of the reason i went with a "12" setting on my bindings because it looked like it centered my size 11 boot a little better than the "11" setting. There really isnt anywhere to ride in nebraska, at least near omaha. I gotta drive 30 minutes to crescent, iowa. Which is still hardly worth it but its the best we can do besides going to the likes of colorado. Haha your right about ice being unforgiving. On a side note, how many of you guys have the lips of your jumps painted? Help? PS, I just changed the bindings to a 15* mirror duck setup, we'll see how it works.
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Well as far as riding ice, it does just take some practice. Ice can be rough, and very unforgiving. As far as overhang etc. Put your board on the floor/table etc. and strap your boots into it while they aren't on your feet. Ratchet the bindings down somewhat tight or as tight as they might be if you were riding. The boot should be pretty much centered on the board itself looking from tail to nose/nose to tail. I have Ride bindings as well and there are two ways to achieve it. Put the binding plate in the binding so you can adjust the foot bed from side to side (edge to edge) before you fully tighten them, or leave the plates alone and adjust your heelcup/straps. I wouldn't say you need this to make it easier to stay on your edge, but to make it a little less awkward to initiate turns/balance etc. The Rides I bought had instructions showing how to perform all the adjustment. Hope this helps. I had no idea you could actually ride anywhere in Nebraska.
well, you're awfully wrong about this, for a guy named Mr. Right.

All bindings and boards are designed so that the center of pressure put on the board (by tightening the binding plates) is directly in the CENTER of the board. Some bindings allow side to side adjustment on the binding itself (which will re-position your boot), but the plate would still have to be centered. any slots on the plate are to allow minute forward/back adjustments (before having to move to the next hole)
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Old 12-24-2007, 04:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The only question u should be asking....Is why am I still in Nebraska? and still trying to snowboard...are u insane....dude its not your gear, not your technique....its your location. I know...I am former Nebraskan and to prove that I am right I will be riding 100+ inches at Baker in a mere 7 hours.
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Old 12-24-2007, 06:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
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god ice sucks
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Old 12-24-2007, 04:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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when you're from the east coast it you learn to ride it. *just got 1/2 an inch of rain after some snow, now its 28 degrees. You know what that means
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