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post #1 of 74 (permalink) Old 03-14-2010, 12:04 PM Thread Starter
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Supplements and vitamins?

i think i might get one of those pill containers like my grandma uses with a little box for each day of the week

the older i get the more important it is to take care of my body if i want to shred hard, and fish hard. i never used to do any of this shit, and grew up skateboarding and snowboarding on taco bell, BK, subway and other garbage, but now...

i don't like to eat breakfast when i wake up early... usually can't eat until i've been up for a few hours at least - so this year i started mixing protein powder in my coffee, 26-52g - usually add 5g of creatine unless i am inactive that day/week.

for healing a separated shoulder:
1000mg methylsulfonylmethane (MSM)
2000mg glucosamine
440mg naproxen sodium (Aleve)

in the winter, when i can remember it:
2000mg vitamin C (Emergen C)
1500mg echinacea/goldenseal

what supplements and vitamins do you take, and for what?
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1 multi-vitamin in the morning with breakfast, 1 vitamin C tablet in the evening.

21 yrs old.

It's good for the cartilage and joints, which take quite a beating !!
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None. We've managed to survive 250,000 years without "Extreme super weight gainer colon blow ripped overcompensating silverback gorilla testosterone 50000000000XL" powder.

I used to work with a man much smarter than myself for a couple years who told me as much. He has a PhD in nutrition, looks like Beavis, does a killer Butthead impression, and is built like a brick shithouse. We evolved on Earth, and we are designed to thrive on this planet with what this planet has to offer. Seemed to work for him, he could bench press a Volkswagen. Barring disease, just eat right and your body will take care of the rest. Anything extra is just pissed out.

EDIT: As an aside, breakfast truly is the most important meal of the day, it's not just a cheesy saying. Metabolic and circadian homeostasis inexorably depend on you dumping fuel into the tank in the morning. It's important for far more reasons than the PSA commercials can come up with.

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Barring disease, just eat right and your body will take care of the rest. Anything extra is just pissed out.
yea... like i said, i don't eat breakfast most of the time - hence the crackpowder


as for the rest... you're right, it sure is hard to piss out a disease. i know a "guy" who tried to piss out his leprosy and his dick just fell off
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You got it MonkeySpunk. My theory is that if I don't get it from the food I eat, then I don't need it.
Guys at work keep trying to tell me that I should take supplements, but I've always been the one who ends up doing the heavy work instead of them(they complain that it's too heavy).
When I was in the army, they did all those tests to make sure that I had the problem nutrients and vitamins(I weighed too much for my height), and to their surprise I had plenty of everything. No supplements needed.
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None. We've managed to survive 250,000 years without "Extreme super weight gainer colon blow ripped overcompensating silverback gorilla testosterone 50000000000XL" powder. :dunno:

I used to work with a man much smarter than myself for a couple years who told me as much. He has a PhD in nutrition, looks like Beavis, does a killer Butthead impression, and is built like a brick shithouse. We evolved on Earth, and we are designed to thrive on this planet with what this planet has to offer. Seemed to work for him, he could bench press a Volkswagen. Barring disease, just eat right and your body will take care of the rest. Anything extra is just pissed out.

EDIT: As an aside, breakfast truly is the most important meal of the day, it's not just a cheesy saying. Metabolic and circadian homeostasis inexorably depend on you dumping fuel into the tank in the morning. It's important for far more reasons than the PSA commercials can come up with.
For the most part, I believe this. I do take Whey post workout, and fish oil to balance that omega 3:omega 6.

Other than that, vitamins and minerals come from fruits and vegetables, minimizing antinutrients, so most of it goes to me instead of binding to other molecules that get dumped out.

Also, the thing about breakfast is also true. Within the hour of waking up, accompanied with a couple of glasses of water to start me off properly hydrated.
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Nutrition

It's a fascinating story.

We don't live the way our ancestors lived. That's good and bad. Life expectancy is longer but quality of life isn't always. Still, when we find preserved remains, we often see the same diseases we fight today. They just killed at 30 or 40.

Having fought weight gain all my life, I try to stay on top of current nutritional thoughts. I remain skeptical of many.

I also had a heart attack, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol. I'm a typical old guy.

What changed? Exercise is the biggest factor. It has to be frequent for most people...4 - 5 times a week. Yes, I know some folks don't need to do that...more power to them...but most need it.

On the nutrition side, I take a very high quality multivitamin daily and I try to eat well (this is the key). I also take fish oil caps (good for cholesterol and arthritis and they're inexpensive). Like most older folks, I take an aspirin daily and plant sterols for cholesterol.

Beyond that, I snowboard as often as possible - 20 - 30 hard days a year...sometimes a bit more.

The other nutritional thing I recommend is (sounds corny) smiling. It reduces blood pressure and stress and makes you easier to be around.


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Holy crap, workout 4--5 times a day?!?! How many days? You can only do that a few times every year, or you'll burn out EASILY. You may be able to do that a couple of days back-to-back, but your nutrition is going to be whacked. You realize if you do that regularly, and you've got quality workouts, you're gonna need to take in 8,000--10,000 calories/day to actually make progress and keep yourself from overtraining. Couldn't imagine how long it would take your body to adapt to that.

Most people actually only need to workout once per day. The elite can stick in two or three regularly, if they're right on the ball with their nutrition and sleep. There are a couple of days a year, even the best athletes can put in 5 workouts in one day, or even do a second day with 5 workouts without burning out. But regularly you're asking for trouble.

The only way I can think of doing 4--5 workouts/day is if they're all bodyweight, lightweight, close lever arm stuff, which is what our ancestors would do for living. These days, you can be much more efficient with heavy weights.
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Workout

Sorry...typo....fixed it.

4 - 5 times per week.


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Fish oil Omega 3 and vitamin B complex, and Biotin. My body is out of whack and need the extra help until I get it back to functioning order. Otherwise, what Munky said.

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