You know, I've never been to the Loveland one. Berthoud has just one clandestine hut that I've found. I haven't been to it in a few years, then there are the huts that used to be more of a commercial operation and are abandoned. Peter Rabbit, 2nd Creek cabin, and 1st Creek cabin. I've never been to the 1st creek one because the terrain right around it is just not interesting for riding. I've looked at it from across the valley though, and it looks like it's the best one at Berthoud.