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Old 12-01-2010, 07:47 PM   #91 (permalink)
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I own almost nothing burton and am not a seasoned snowboarder but i do work in the business world (most ppl do) and i think burton does a great job as a company. They advertise well and are very smart by getting ppl to use their boards as rentals and having kids programs. Some ppl say that they don't like there business practices?!? LOL you don't like things to be successful? I guess you better not use any microsoft programs and get rid of ur xbox. Stop hating ppl and companies for working at being a good business... its kinda what they are supposed to do. Companies that "make there own boards and don't give a fuck" won't be around very long. If your small company has been around for a while then they do give a fuck and ur to dumb to figuire it out. No one is making boards for free or at a loss, not on purpose anyway and not for long.
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It's not because they're successful, it's because when they're shit breaks they have been know to not give a fuck.
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Old 12-01-2010, 08:01 PM   #92 (permalink)
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That's odd, because everyone I've talked to that has had to call rider services has had good experiences with them. Case in point a buddy of mine had his spring break in his ratchet (Missions), they not only replaced it they offered to replace the ladders as well if they were looking worn. Was standing right there next to him in the shop when he made the call. All they wanted was his address, name, phone and binding model and he was off the phone with the new ratchet coming his way. Sounds like they gave a fuck since he didn't ask or say anything about the ladders when he called either.
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Yeah I broke a base plate on 07 missions and they sent me O-ten's missions. Didn't even take them long to ship, so I only lost about a week of the season. But the simple fact that they broke in the first place was enough to turn me off from Burton. But I sill use the same bindings and I use Moto boots (that packed out in one season and now feel like junk) until my broke ass can afford some quality gear.
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:17 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Some ppl say that they don't like there business practices?!? LOL you don't like things to be successful?
I don`t mind being successful. But when the person making the big money is on a different continent than 90% (if not more) of the product being made that`s some good walmart shit. Good for them, I`d rather try to support the smaller dudes.
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Companies that "make there own boards and don't give a fuck" won't be around very long.
Not giving a fuck in regard to their buck ferton board. Time will only tell how long they last. Can you give me the winning lotto numbers with that crystal ball of urs.
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You are right, Burton follows a winning business model that rakes in lots of profits and happy shareholders. But you know what people are starting to realize? Unregulated Capitalism has failed them, turning the land of opportunity into the land of the %5 who own the land of opportunity.

People like smaller companies because it represents a business model and a time when there were no multinational corporations who outsource a huge percentage of their jobs to China and India because it will increase their profits.

I read an article recently about how we percieve how well we are off compared to our parents,(think 1920's-1970's), and what it reveals is that we have traded our job market, job security, health benefits, pensions, retirement, and a high-pay relative to economy for a bunch of cheap consumerism crap made in China via Walmart.

Small businesses cannot even be competitive anymore, because ultimately corporations have perfected the cheapest possible ways of manufacturing consumerism items. With the huge capital and shareholder cashflow these corporation get, it allows them to produce items at probably half the cost of a legit fully American based company.

But you know who is to blame? We, the consumers are to blame because we got lazy and decided above all things we really needed all this cheap consumerism crap, this electricity, this huge gas guzzling SUV and this water starving lawn.

Businesses merely supply to a clientèle wants. Apparently we want to have a lower quality of life so we can lug around a bunch of shit...


From a Capitalistic business perspective Burton really only deserves praise. I just merely think the type of business model Burton is starting to use is a culprit for many of our problems.
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I don`t mind being successful. But when the person making the big money is on a different continent than 90% (if not more) of the product being made that`s some good walmart shit. Good for them, I`d rather try to support the smaller dudes.
That`s my opinion, sorry if you don`t like it.



Not giving a fuck in regard to their buck ferton board. Time will only tell how long they last. Can you give me the winning lotto numbers with that crystal ball of urs.
Which lotto? lol

All countries are dependent on foreign investment (usa included). And you are welcome to support whatever companies you want. The fact is that mexico and china make good quailty goods, often times better than north america and europe. Thats why the jobs got shipped similar quailty for a fraction of the cost. Theoretically you want those jobs to leave because it means that you get the higher tech more money jobs into your country, of coarse there is a transition peroid (that is straight out of a text book so take it however you want). Fact is world has changed. You can sit around and wish it didn't but it did, go with it or fix the problems to make it go back to the way it was... good luck.

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You are right, Burton follows a winning business model that rakes in lots of profits and happy shareholders. But you know what people are starting to realize? Unregulated Capitalism has failed them, turning the land of opportunity into the land of the %5 who own the land of opportunity.

People like smaller companies because it represents a business model and a time when there were no multinational corporations who outsource a huge percentage of their jobs to China and India because it will increase their profits.

I read an article recently about how we percieve how well we are off compared to our parents,(think 1920's-1970's), and what it reveals is that we have traded our job market, job security, health benefits, pensions, retirement, and a high-pay relative to economy for a bunch of cheap consumerism crap made in China via Walmart.

Small businesses cannot even be competitive anymore, because ultimately corporations have perfected the cheapest possible ways of manufacturing consumerism items. With the huge capital and shareholder cashflow these corporation get, it allows them to produce items at probably half the cost of a legit fully American based company.

But you know who is to blame? We, the consumers are to blame because we got lazy and decided above all things we really needed all this cheap consumerism crap, this electricity, this huge gas guzzling SUV and this water starving lawn.

Businesses merely supply to a clientèle wants. Apparently we want to have a lower quality of life so we can lug around a bunch of shit...


From a Capitalistic business perspective Burton really only deserves praise. I just merely think the type of business model Burton is starting to use is a culprit for many of our problems.
You are right the consumer is to blame. And burton will never cause a major problem for your country. The government will most definitely let burton go bankrupt if they fail. The USA's world economic status will not be effected if burton fails unlike the banking system.

Outsourcing = good. Similar quaility, lower cost for the consumer, more profit. If you force all produciton to stay in your country you provide jobs for an extra 600 ppl and some spin off industry and then screw over the rest of the country cuase a pair of nikes cost $500 and then you can't afford to snowboard anymore cause you gotta buy shoes. Ship the low skilled low paying jobs out and replace them with higher education/higher tech/higher paying jobs. There will always be a small market for the NS, just will be hard for them to become big, they have to focus on the highest quailty gear and can't get caught up into becoming a high production company.
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