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Old 01-25-2011, 11:21 AM   #101 (permalink)
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My nightmare is being put in charge of other peoples' kids that have learned to not listen to adult commands. We have some friends whose parenting skills completely suck, and their out-of-control kids are the product of their weak effort and skills. For god's sake, what else has a more profound and lasting impact than the way one raises his/her kids? Read a freaking book already! Responsible people wouldn't think of being totally unprepared for school or work, yet many of those same people just "wing it" when it comes to parenting.
Well if you think about it, most ppl aren't prepared for school or work. They just do enough to get by. Disregarding those ppl who are geniuses or whatever, how many ppl work to get A's or work extra hard to know everything about the profession? In fact, most ppl are average joes who rather sit in front of prime time TV (often dual weilding beer and remote) vs. doing homework or keeping up with the field.

It's human nature to "conserver energy" (ehem...laziness). That's why there are leaders and trailers.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:29 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Point of technicality: the girl was wearing a helmet. He hit her so hard the helmet flew off her head.
Could have sworn it was the boarder who's helmet flew off and neither mother nor child had a helmet on. At any rate, it really wouldn't have mattered. I just brought up the helmet thing to point out that even had she worn one, same results would have happened.

I still don't blame the boarder completely. You say he should have been aware of the party below him. How do we know he even saw them take that run? He could have gone off the lift well after they began their run. It is not anyone's responsibility to keep track of every single person on the lift and make sure you watch them get off to see which run they take. It's not even feasible.

I stand by my statement that both parties made a sad mistake. Whether or not the girl should have been on there is questionable. Whether or not she had the time to pick her ski up and move over instead of putting it on at the spot is questionable. Whether or not the boarder noticed the mother and daughter after getting off the lift is questionable. Whether or not he was out of control is questionable.

Freak accident. Both parties were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Freak accident. Both parties were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Yeah, one of the inevitable results of our litigious society is that there's the feeling that any time anything bad happens, it has to be someone's fault, and someone has to pay. Fell off a ladder? The ladder company should have explained gravity better. Cross the street between intersections at night wearing dark clothes? The driver should have psychically known your intentions. Get hit by a meteorite? The govmint shouldn't have cancelled project eyeball.

Sometimes shit just happens. Sometimes everyone is acting reasonably and someone still gets hurt. Sometimes a tree just falls on you. It's not fair, it's not just, it's not deserved. It's life.
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:58 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Well if you think about it, most ppl aren't prepared for school or work. They just do enough to get by. Disregarding those ppl who are geniuses or whatever, how many ppl work to get A's or work extra hard to know everything about the profession?
Most responsible adults prepare for shit. That's how one becomes a professional, not by just skating by.

Edit: "Being responsible" implies being prepared for work and school, wouldn't you say? It doesn't have to mean one's a genius.

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Could have sworn it was the boarder who's helmet flew off and neither mother nor child had a helmet on. At any rate, it really wouldn't have mattered. I just brought up the helmet thing to point out that even had she worn one, same results would have happened.

I still don't blame the boarder completely. You say he should have been aware of the party below him. How do we know he even saw them take that run? He could have gone off the lift well after they began their run. It is not anyone's responsibility to keep track of every single person on the lift and make sure you watch them get off to see which run they take. It's not even feasible.

I stand by my statement that both parties made a sad mistake. Whether or not the girl should have been on there is questionable. Whether or not she had the time to pick her ski up and move over instead of putting it on at the spot is questionable. Whether or not the boarder noticed the mother and daughter after getting off the lift is questionable. Whether or not he was out of control is questionable.

Freak accident. Both parties were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
You watched the video, right? The run is straight as an arrow, with nothing in the middle except for a gentle hump.

Lawsuit or not, I blame him completely for the death of a little girl.
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Yeah, one of the inevitable results of our litigious society is that there's the feeling that any time anything bad happens, it has to be someone's fault, and someone has to pay. Fell off a ladder? The ladder company should have explained gravity better. Cross the street between intersections at night wearing dark clothes? The driver should have psychically known your intentions. Get hit by a meteorite? The govmint shouldn't have cancelled project eyeball.

Sometimes shit just happens. Sometimes everyone is acting reasonably and someone still gets hurt. Sometimes a tree just falls on you. It's not fair, it's not just, it's not deserved. It's life.
Lawsuit or not, I blame the snowboarder. A tree just falls. A snowboarder does not just accidentally go 50+ mph.
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Most responsible adults prepare for shit. That's how one becomes a professional, not by just skating by.

Edit: "Being responsible" implies being prepared for work and school, wouldn't you say? It doesn't have to mean one's a genius.
I guess it depends on what standard you place on "being responsible" and "prepared". IMO, most people aren't really prepared as best as they can be. That's why there's always going to be the few who excel in thier work faster than others. Most A students aren't "geniuses". But there are fewer of them nevertheless than the overwhelming amount of C students. In work and life, you can think of this the same way too. There are a few who would "read parenting books" like suggested, but the brunt of people are "C parents".
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