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Old 02-13-2011, 12:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Recently I've been working on my park skills and I am now having a huge problem with larger jumps.(15ft and over)And I keep running into the same mental problem.

It started when I was 12 I went with my friends parents to a ski trip in New York and while in the hot tub I met a group of teenagers on a school trip and I talked to them for a while. The next day we went snowboarding and I saw the group of teenagers hitting a jump that was about 20 to 30 feet. One of the teens hit the jump, tilted backwards and he ended up dying because of the fall..

He was in a coma previously for another accident and he wasn't wearing a helmet there were other factors involved but this incident has really messed me up when it comes to snowboarding and it makes me far more cautious then any of my other friends which is not always necessarily bad, but it always prevents me from going on bigger jumps.

Do you know what I can do to subdue that feeling that something will go horribly wrong when hitting bigger jumps? I am sure I have the ability to hit the bigger jumps I just always am thinking of what can go wrong which messes with me.

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Old 02-13-2011, 12:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's all mental you just got to sack up. I was told I'd never ride again and be lucky to walk I still hit jumps and ride 100 plus days a year. Ask yourself if the reward is worth the risk.
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If he was put in a coma from a previous jump and he STILL wasn't wearing a helmet, then this guy was asking for trouble by continuing to ride without a helmet.
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If he was put in a coma from a previous jump and he STILL wasn't wearing a helmet, then this guy was asking for trouble by continuing to ride without a helmet.
Sounds like he hit a jump he just wasn't ready for and had no business hitting, with or without a helmet. Helmets don't make you invincible.
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If you doubt it that badly, it's better to just not hit it.

Just keep hitting stuff you are comfortable with. You'll eventually gain confidence from that. I had a mental block as well with anything over the same as your 15'.

I hit a 20 before and got a mild concussion. I was paranoid that whole day about hitting the back of my head without a helmet. This created fear and I avoided jumps altogether for a couple of seasons. I just recently started hitting small jumps and have been gaining my confidence back.

I hit the 15-20'er again and even though I didn't land it, I have my confidence back.

You also have to realize that we do risk a lot when we snowboard. Even if we aren't in the park hitting kickers. Remember, every time you get in a car, you are in the most dangerous mode of transportation. Snowboarding has much, much less risk than being in an automobile.

BurtonAvenger is right, weigh the risks vs benefit. Can you thoroughly enjoy riding without hitting bigger kickers? Or is it something that you want to conquer. For me, I have this need to conquer it. I think I'll stop at 20' though lol.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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or if your like me not having access to jumps over 20 ft you get extremely comfortable with the jumps you have and stepping up won't be a problem. the second they built the 20 footer i hit it no problem. right now i'd be willing to hit a 30 footer but theres none to be found haha
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That fear you're feeling is a self-preservation instinct. You saw what happened to another member of your species after trying something and you learned from it. That's what is supposed to happen. You can probably overcome it despite having everything inside your being telling you it's wrong, but to echo what everyone has said, can you enjoy riding without going bigger?
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I think I can shed some more light on this as well as I ride the same parks as the OP does. In our Progression Park there's a 3 jump line with really mellow angles on the takeoff. The first jump in our bigger park is quite a bit larger and the lip is pretty steep compared to anything else we have to ride. There's not really any way to practice for the larger jump, they took out the smaller lip next to the larger one and it does have a lot of pop to it, especially for someone who hasn't had a lot of experience hitting stuff like that.

For now, the only thing you can do to get ready for it is this. Start at the Prog Park drop in and skip the first jump, stay low and fast and hit the 2nd one (left side, not the smaller right side). The landing is long enough that you won't overshoot it and it will give you more time in the air to get used to the feeling of what the main park jump will feel like. I was riding it yesterday due to a fractured tailbone and wasn't overshooting it at all, just was more floaty in the air. Once you get comfortable with being in the air longer, and you feel more ready for the large jump, roll the drop in by the lift and just ride past it a few times to get comfortable with the speed. One thing though, DO NOT hit the 3rd jump in the Prog Park after skipping the first, you'll have too much speed coming into it and the landing is not long enough to hit at that speed, you will overshoot it.

As far as getting used to the steepness of the lip on the main park jump, the only thing that comes close to it is the lip for the A frame rail. The jumps are off to the side of it (like a transfer gap to rail) and it's a similar angle as the big jump. You can hit those straight and not get near the rail.

I don't have pictures for the rest of the people here but even the drop in for the large jump is weird. It's very steep and there's very little flat before you start going up the tranny of the kicker. It's a step-down and a lot of newer park riders aren't hitting it.

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If you doubt it that badly, it's better to just not hit it.

Just keep hitting stuff you are comfortable with. You'll eventually gain confidence from that. I had a mental block as well with anything over the same as your 15'.

I hit a 20 before and got a mild concussion. I was paranoid that whole day about hitting the back of my head without a helmet. This created fear and I avoided jumps altogether for a couple of seasons. I just recently started hitting small jumps and have been gaining my confidence back.

I hit the 15-20'er again and even though I didn't land it, I have my confidence back.

You also have to realize that we do risk a lot when we snowboard. Even if we aren't in the park hitting kickers. Remember, every time you get in a car, you are in the most dangerous mode of transportation. Snowboarding has much, much less risk than being in an automobile.

BurtonAvenger is right, weigh the risks vs benefit. Can you thoroughly enjoy riding without hitting bigger kickers? Or is it something that you want to conquer. For me, I have this need to conquer it. I think I'll stop at 20' though lol.
Sorry guys totally off topic but Leo I just clicked on your aGNARchy link and saw the bail of the week- that's my home hill!! I was shocked haha
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Sorry guys totally off topic but Leo I just clicked on your aGNARchy link and saw the bail of the week- that's my home hill!! I was shocked haha
LoL yea... David posted that. Funny clip. Didn't even come close to clearing that tire. It was so bad that it looked intended haha.
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