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Old 02-14-2011, 11:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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sat night, busy. Get in a line that I've never seen before at my local hill. 4 person lift with a carpet ramp and gate system. Ski patrol yelling to group up. My last experiences grouping with 4 others, is that everyone skis/boards over each other. Lift moves pretty quick and the ramp system gets them all lined up and keeps the lift moving pretty well. We are talking about a 5 minute wait during the worst. Do you group up or ignore?
Personally, being new I really didnt want to dunk a group of people with my loser dismount...so I ignore and loaded with just my wife.

Sure enough we get to the top, 4 kids fell in front of us and the operator is looking the other way daydreaming. Very steep lift drop. steepest I've ever been on. If we had 4 I would have bulldozed at least two of them or taken out my group trying to steer out the way...and probably hurt them with my weight vs theirs.

what do you do?
can they boot you if you refuse?
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I usually group up. Its nice to meet new people and you can get a few chairs ahead. I have experienced people telling me that I should go with another group of three. I'm not trying to make any assumptions, but all of these people have been older skiers. As for booting you if you don't group up, I'm not sure, but I would think that since you're paying customer and there are no written rules on the ticket about it, you should be fine.
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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When the lines get long, I agree that we should group up as a courtesy to keep lines moving as fast as possible. I do want the staff to be courteous also in how they ask people to fill up the chairs. Afterall, our safety and fun should be priority.
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group up when it gets busy - when it gets really busy here the lifties organize the flow, and anyone that doesnt want to group with other groups get singles added in.
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I'm to the point where I don't fall off the lift anymore (thankfully, it was a long road ), but I can see your concern. Normally, my opinion would be to follow ski patrols instructions in the regard as courtesy to them as well as to keep the line moving.

Lifts are always dicey, unfortunately, and sometimes there's just no way around a bad situation like you almost experienced.
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In most cases when it's truly busy, if you don't group up with the people in front of you, the people behind you will group up with you. You might as well get used to going up a quad with 4 people.

BTW, I've found that steeper exit ramps are safer and easier to ride away from.
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My last experiences grouping with 4 others, is that everyone skis/boards over each other.
Try only grouping with 3 others on a quad, it works better.
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Load the chair up...that's why there's singles line, some tourist don't like it but hey its their problem not usually the experienced single that is getting on. So just tell folks that you're not good at getting off and discuss the exit plan. Btw many folks will give pointers about making a graceful exit.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:33 AM   #9 (permalink)
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So just tell folks that you're not good at getting off and discuss the exit plan. Btw many folks will give pointers about making a graceful exit.
best point yet /\. I try to avoid real new riders but if I can't I try to exit 1st to give THEM the room and make them comfortable in off loading. I have even waited to be the last one off if that seems best.
Try to find you best spot to exit. Are you more comfortable off-loading from one side or the other, one of the middle seats. Then explain to the group your getting on with, "hey I'm new its easiest for me to not crash if I can sit "X" is that ok" most people will be happy to do that.

We were all at this point, and practice your skating or grip off your boot to binding this really helps. Maybe a stomp pad if you don't have one.

Good Luck, it'll come...
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Group up, in order to keep traffic moving. On busy days no one gets a private or semi-private chair.

I haven't gotten tangled up to the point of falling at the exit in years. In one instance this season the guy on my toeside stumbled into me and was about to biff but I gave him a man-hug and kept him upright until he gained his balance. We agreed never to talk about it.

If the others on my chair look inexperienced I sometimes launch forward quickly in order to get ahead of potential trouble.

Learn how to ride with only one foot strapped in and you can almost always ride away from trouble, as those who have difficulty seem to be stumbling around on the ramp.
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