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Old 04-28-2011, 02:10 AM   #91 (permalink)
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The Us gov' needs to stop printing so much money, its hurting the strength of your $$$$ but thats another issue. All i know is the Aussie $ is worth $1.09 USD which means my new t rice is actually cheaper to buy in Aus than it is to buy in the US where it is made, go figure
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Old 04-28-2011, 04:18 AM   #92 (permalink)
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The Us gov' needs to stop printing so much money, its hurting the strength of your $$$$ but thats another issue. All i know is the Aussie $ is worth $1.09 USD which means my new t rice is actually cheaper to buy in Aus than it is to buy in the US where it is made, go figure
Well, if it wasn't for the freight, it'd probably be cheaper to buy online and ship from the states. By the way, double lame about that whole NS not being able to frieght to other countries.
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Old 04-28-2011, 06:50 AM   #93 (permalink)
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i know man i was keen on the NS heritage X but ahh well the t rice will have to do, and im getting the 2012 t rice hp for 500AUD, steal!
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Old 04-28-2011, 06:54 AM   #94 (permalink)
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if someone wants to put their life at risk, let them do it, if they die well that sucks but whose fault is it? the persons.
if a kid wants to ride without a helmet let him
, are we really trying to force something a trivial as a helmet?? guess they don't know it only protects your head.
really making a law will make kids wear a helmet even less cause the police wants the, to do it.
but im sure this has been said i was just to lazy to read through all these pages
Kids don't make the best judgment calls. My roof, my rules. Like I said, it would be nice to know that ski patrol would revoke my kids' passes if they disobey me and the resort's policy. That doesn't just stop at helmets, that goes for all other policies on the slopes including proper etiquette.

I'm not for this law. I like the idea of it and as Wolfie and others pointed out, there are better ways to do this without the mighty hand of the law. I don't want to sit next to a cop on skis. Although it would be fun to watch how much they get sprayed and see how they handle the situation.

I'm also fully aware that a lot of people, including adults, use helmets for the wrong reasons. And whether or not it does something subconscious to us is both debatable and impossible to prove. All I know is, I'm going to make it very clear that a helmet is not going to save them from injury altogether.

On a related note, I find it very interesting to see Kevin Pearce fiercely defending this law on Twitter.
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1. if the law stops even one kid from having a serious or fatal head injury, it's worth it
If one terrorist attack is averted by tapping everyone's phone then it's worth it

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I just think this whole thing has been way overblown. Sure, there's tons of bigger issues the government could be spending money on..however, this is a state government law, not a federal law, so if you aren't in the state that demands it, it has little to no bearing on you. In addition, there are a MILLION wasteful ways the government spends money... I can think of a lot that are way stupider and unnecessary than insisting that minors wear helmets while snowboarding.
The thing you are failing to realize in most of your posts is that it does affect everyone. Something that has to be considered is that each state has a certain budget, when it falls short they have to apply for federal money to make up for it. There is not only the time and money wasted by passing this law. There is enforcement of the law, The collection of the fines, the processing of each court case, and a ton of paperwork behind it all. Have you ever had a speeding ticket? Sure no big deal to you, minor inconvenience, you go home, write a check for the fine and mail it, done for you. On the other side of that, the officer has to write a report, store the video file(dash cam) and log it into evidence. Then there is a court date set, a case file generated, a clerk that has to rubber stamp the resolution of said case once it's paid. Now say you forget to pay the fine, a warrant is issued that has to be signed by a judge, executed by a police officer, and a bed in a cell that has to be open to accommodate you when you are arrested on said warrant. I know this law is just one example of a frivolous waste of law enforcement and court resources, however if you add them all up it is a considerable drain on the whole economy.

While I agree that children should wear helmets, how are they going to enforce this law? Station a police officer at each resort? Have ski patrol detain the offender until a cop can come issue a citation? The first option is a horrible waste of manpower. Not to mention, do you really want a real cop stationed at your hill? If you walk by a (ski) patrol reeking of kind bud, none of us care, if you walk by a real cop reeking of bud...well you get it. The second is a waste of safety personal time. If I'm babysitting little Billy and his parents until a cop can get there, guess what, I'm not on the hill doing what I'm supposed to be doing. Which is keeping you safe, issuing first aid, and dragging you down the hill if you break yourself. So my time is better spent babysitting some brat rather then splinting your broken leg?

To me it's a matter of resorts being so far released from liability that the insurance companies don't put any pressure on them to make this a policy. Think about mandatory drug testing for employment. If a company doesn't have a drug testing policy then their insurance goes up. To me (and others) this should be a resort policy, simple enough, if a kid is getting on the lift with out a helmet, guess what, they don't get on, and/or have their pass jerked. How many times do you think it would take of little Billy calling his parents to come back and pick him up would it take before they bought him a helmet? My guess would be about once. Or in order to even purchase a lift ticket for a minor you would have to show that said minor has a helmet, issue a different color pass to minors so the lifties know exactly who has to have a helmet to get on the lift.
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You just used some of my ideas Jeffrey!

Sorry to be a grammar nazi, but it's AFFECT not EFFECT! RAWRASAURUS!



... and phone tapping is an entirely different matter. I for one do say it's alright so long as it's working.

Terrorist threat averted > big brother listening to my phone sex convos

If you're going to rob me of my privacy, do it for a reason like this.

Same goes for those airport body scans (as long as it actually doesn't physically harm me). You can't win either way. We get attacked, security gets blamed. We up the security, people complain about invasion of privacy.

Uh oh, did I just start another potential debate topic?
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You just used some of my ideas Jeffrey!
Whoops, I was typing that in between phone calls, took about an hour to type out so we were posting at the same time....great minds think alike

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... and phone tapping is an entirely different matter. I for one do say it's alright so long as it's working.

Terrorist threat averted > big brother listening to my phone sex convos

If you're going to rob me of my privacy, do it for a reason like this.

Same goes for those airport body scans (as long as it actually doesn't physically harm me). You can't win either way. We get attacked, security gets blamed. We up the security, people complain about invasion of privacy.

Uh oh, did I just start another potential debate topic?
Slippery slope my friend
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Slippery slope my friend
I know, but to that I say... WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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I know, but to that I say... WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
A great leader once put his whole country under surveillance, had citizens keep an eye on each other, and had a lot of frivolous laws. No one cared because he was so awesome, turned the economy around, unified the nation, and built one hell of an industrial complex. He was even named Time magazines man of the year....in 1938
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*Meet the Fockers style* Eye C U Jeffrey o_o
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