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There you go.

Plain and simple, not wearing a helmet is (and should be) personal choice. This isn't like speeding a car, you're not hurting anyone but yourself by not wearing one. What's next, you have to wear long sleeves and jeans when riding a bike so you don't scrape up your arms and knees? Our so-called "government" can stay the fuck out of personal decisions.
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18 is generally considered the age by which you are old enough and mature enough to be considered an adult and to make serious decisions regarding your own health and future.

... if the government and the country viewed adults and minors as having the same levels of cognitive reasoning to determine what is and is not the correct course of action, then there wouldn't be age restrictions on many things.
The age of majority is essentially an arbitrary number (as a thought experiment I'm sure we all know 17 year olds who are very smart and capable, and we all know 30 year olds who are fucking morons). It is this way because it is simply easier than if the courts & laws had to be judged on their own merits for each individual case.


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While I agree with most of that I think the difference is that as times change and the world changes, rules and laws aswell as precedents set all must change with the times. I understand the US's history aswell as constitution as I have studied them in depth but I think the founding fathers were, and the constitution were written in a time that could not foresee how the world would change, that's not to say you throw the basic constitution and concepts out the door but I do believe there are some extenuating circumstances that warrant a change here and there to what was written 200 years ago. I'm not questioning the importance of this all but I am saying that there comes a time when you must address changing times, think of the knowledge and changes the world has advanced in the last 50 years let alone 200, while the constitution remain the same. Btw I am not suggesting the constitution be changed at all.

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No neither do I I guess I was talking about more serious issues than helmets on snowboarders, but in principal it has to do with the overall argument/discussion

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For those who compare ski helmet laws to seat belt laws (which includes me, btw ), let's remember that driving a car is not a right. It's a licensed privilege, and the gov't can set any kind of requirements for the granting of that license. Skiing or snowboarding (or riding a bike) are not licensed activities and therefore fall under the category of personal freedoms. Notwithstanding demurrals by denialists, seat belt laws and motorcycle helmet laws do reduce injuries and deaths overall, and quite significantly, so a case can be made that your 'personal choice' is costing other people money for an activity that the government is legitimately mandated to oversee for the good of the general public. No such mandate exists for things like skiing, snowboarding, or walking down the street.

I do believe that ski helmets reduce injury overall (I wear one and I will continue to do so), but I have a problem with passing laws to shove your own neuroses down someone else's throat. Let's be clear on this -- the question of whether helmets help and the question of whether they should be mandated are two separate issues.


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Notwithstanding demurrals by denialists, seat belt laws and motorcycle helmet laws do reduce injuries and deaths overall, and quite significantly, so a case can be made that your 'personal choice' is costing other people money for an activity that the government is legitimately mandated to oversee for the good of the general public. No such mandate exists for things like skiing, snowboarding, or walking down the street.
I hope to god it never does. If it's done by specific resort rules, ok, but not by our government and as a whole across a state or nation. This is why I believe it's another step towards insanity. If they mandate helmet laws, then why not wrist guards, ass pads, knee pads and the rest. All of which, if injured, could possibly be a very serious injury. Where does it end?
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