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Old 04-25-2011, 11:54 PM   #31 (permalink)
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No really you're wasting your time. He's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to angry to listen.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:05 AM   #32 (permalink)
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laws will happen no matter what you want and no matter what logic is used to refute them
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:38 AM   #33 (permalink)
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The laws I have a problem with are the laws that do nothing to protect others. Wearing a helmet only protects the wearer. It's a personal choice. Someone not wearing a helmet is not going to cause unnecessary injury to someone else. So, why make a helmet law? If a choice is only going to cause possible injury to the person making the choice, then leave them the fuck alone.

As long as a choice isn't impacting the rights of others, then leave people the fuck alone. There's too much goddamn meddling going on in this country right now. Most people just want to be left the fuck alone. Then you have a small percentage of people that try to force their views on everyone else. That's when people like me get pissed off and start pushing back.
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:44 AM   #34 (permalink)
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^^^^

LOL! That was fucking awesome.
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:06 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:15 AM   #36 (permalink)
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what the fuck??!!
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:26 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Most people just want to be left the fuck alone. Then you have a small percentage of people that try to force their views on everyone else.[/QUOTE]

^^^^Isnt that exactly what you are doing now? and what im doing?

I think the reason that governments enforce rules to protect iindividuals is so that they are not having to answer questions everyday as to why yet another motorist has been killed by not wearing a seatbelt, biker not wearign a helmet etc etc. The entire reason that a government puts laws in place like this is to protect their citizens? i mean we all know that police are there to "protect and serve" well think of some the laws the same way they are put in place so people in a functioning socity are not just dying left right and centre, no one physically forces you to comply with the laws, but if you dont and are caught doing so then there are consequences. If there is no law and no policies in place then how can a society function at all?

I do understand that you are talking about specific laws and i do not expect everyone in this world to think alike as it would be shit boring, but (talking about seatbelts now) when a law is in place that is PROVEN to save peoples lives and significantly reduce injuries, then why would you have a problem with that? What if in 20 years it is "proven" that putting a law in place for minors to wear helmets, would it still be an issue or would you welcome it? those 2 are serious questions im not having a go at you
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i dunno why but that seatbelt commercial reminded me this hilarious vid
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^^^^Isnt that exactly what you are doing now? and what im doing?

I think the reason that governments enforce rules to protect iindividuals is so that they are not having to answer questions everyday as to why yet another motorist has been killed by not wearing a seatbelt, biker not wearign a helmet etc etc. The entire reason that a government puts laws in place like this is to protect their citizens? i mean we all know that police are there to "protect and serve" well think of some the laws the same way they are put in place so people in a functioning socity are not just dying left right and centre, no one physically forces you to comply with the laws, but if you dont and are caught doing so then there are consequences. If there is no law and no policies in place then how can a society function at all?

I do understand that you are talking about specific laws and i do not expect everyone in this world to think alike as it would be shit boring, but (talking about seatbelts now) when a law is in place that is PROVEN to save peoples lives and significantly reduce injuries, then why would you have a problem with that? What if in 20 years it is "proven" that putting a law in place for minors to wear helmets, would it still be an issue or would you welcome it? those 2 are serious questions im not having a go at you
The difference is that I'm saying to leave others alone as well as myself, not arguing about the merits of limiting others rights.

By your logic, we should just outlaw vehicles altogether. Studies have shown that those damn things are dangerous. Just think about all the lives that could be saved if we didn't have those things around.

I will never welcome laws limiting the rights of individuals to make choices on matters that only impact themselves. Ever.
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Old 04-26-2011, 06:01 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I think you may need to re-read what i wrote, what i said has nothing to do with outlawing anything or trying to make the world wrapped in cotton wool so no one gets hurt. shit will happen no matter what measures are put in place and no matter how many regulations are put in place there will be people who get hurt anyway, the point i am trying to make that i think is being missed is that where does it stop? where does limiting the rights of someone while still doing what is best for individuals and society start and stop? How can you progress as a nation (i dont mean the US specifcally) and a world if we do not put measures in place that protect individuals (even if it is from themselves). Im not trying to tell you how to live your life, chances are what you do will never affect me and vise versa, all im trying to say is somethings that are put in place are for the greater good no matter if you agree with it or not.
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