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Helmet Nazi's and so it begins

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#6 ·
I agree with this law. And I honestly don't understand people who don't wear them. Where I ride, the helmet-less people are the one looking weird.

I have yet to hear a valuable reason not to wear one. And about the "it's my choice" logic, I would compare it to wearing a seatbelt, which is mandatory almost everywhere...
 
#7 ·
IT's a freedom of choice that's being taken away. I rode in the mid to late 90's with a helmet I looked odd man out, dog ate the helmet went back to riding without one, got another helmet later on broke it, been helmetless now for a while, probably go back to one next season cause I"m sick of almost hitting my head on rocks. It's a choice and I understand that I could die from it but so be it.

But oh no the fucking fluffy bunny huggers need to make sure we're always safe. Yeah cool put a cop on the hill just what I want my tax dollars for. Fuck this god damn country I'm moving to that floating island of garbage and calling it angryastan and sit around floating up and down in waste cause it seems better than this shit hole country.
 
#11 ·
I don't even know why their bothering, helmets have gained so much popularity that there are typically more people with them then without nowadays... even the kids think they're cool.

It will probably become a big fucking deal for the ice-coast, similar to the way binding leashes are. Out west it's more about riding and less about crowd-control, probably why no one cares...
 
#12 ·
The cop thing is ridiculous though... It would be quite easy to enforce, you have a junior ticket and not helmet, you can not get on the lift.

I understand what you guys are talking about personnal freedom of choice and all. But you also got to understand that in most cases, a head injury will not kill you (sorry natural selection...) but can get you severely injured and possibly disabled. Where I live the whole health care system is public, and we also have public welfare programs. If someone gets injured and disabled everyone is paying for him... and possibly for the rest of his life. I also understand that snowboarding is a dangerous sport and that shit happens. I just don't want to pay for someone who hit his head and did not have a helmet just because that is "his choice".

BA, props for wearing a helmet in the mid 90s. I boarded at that time and I honestly would not have worn one... ever. But in 2011, I just cannot justify not wearing one.
 
#13 ·
^^^^^
Well, someone that just sits around their house all weekend because they're scared shitless to go out there and LIVE probably doesn't want to pay to keep you up if you snap your fucking spine on a snowboard and are paralyzed.

I live in a country that used to value personal responsibility. I wish I still did.
 
#14 ·
Well this law does pertain to minors and therefore I think most if not all of the people responding on this thread would not be affected. I am not really for or against this. With Minors it's a tough call, as decision making isn't all that great. Of course it forces a burden on parents and so on. It can also be seen as a stepping stone and that's no bueno.
 
#17 ·
I dont see why this would really be an issue, i mean lets be honest if you do happen to fall and smack your head you will do considerably less damage wearing a helmet. will it prevent all injurys? no but it may be the difference between death or a concussion. Now as far as imposing on you rights and freedom of choices, cmon man give me a break anyone who still believes that the US is a "free do what i want" country is kidding themselves. It shouldnt be either, i am an Aussie who lived in the states for 5 years and loved every minute of it, my wife is from there and we go back every year but i seriously dont get why people are so ANTI rules and regulations. while the helmet issue may not save hundreds of lives if it saves someones child then why would it not be worth it? as for seat belts and helmets on bikes, why shouldnt they be compulsory? what possible reason could you give me that would argue against something making you and your family safer? and how could anyone use the argument that being forced to wear a seatbelt is an infringment on your rights? you still have the right not to drive if you dont like the law, how bout we just say that we can kill people because it is our right? I know thats a bit extreme but where does the line start or stop?
 
#18 ·
You're not from here so shut the fuck up. I could live in Australia for 5 years doesn't mean I know the ins and outs of the country. It's the fact that this country is consistently giving control of choice over to the government and becoming a police state. We have become a country of satiated fucks that spend too much time watching reality tv and consuming foods that are killing us while the government tells us what we can and can't do.

Personally if I want to take my life into my own hands that is my choice no one elses. Have I nearly hit my head on rocks riding? Yes, does that mean I should wear a helmet probably but it is my choice. Choices are what made this country great now it seems every day we have less and less choices. Now come back with some witty response about how the 5 years you lived here you know all about our country or that the woman you fuck is from here. Unless you were born and raised with freedoms like we had in this country you don't know fuck all.
 
#20 ·
well after reading heaps of shit on this forum i know there is no point in arguing with a fuckwit like yourself who think he is the be all and end all of snowboarding and snowboarding knowledge, apart from the fact you try and belittle other people who dont share the same ignorant views as you, you write on this forum like someone who has little man syndrome and cant be an arrogant prick anywhere else but online. As far as your own choices an liberty etc etc IF you have ever been to Australia you would know that not only are we raised with more freedom and rights than the US but we live a considerably more comfortable and crime/violence/probem free life than someone of comparable age and background in the US. As for Franklin, i believe when he said that (a long time ago) he would have been referencing problems and/or situations in his immediate time and surely it does not pertain to the present issue of keeping people safe when possible. Apart from BA's lame response i still hear no legit argument as to why wearing a helmet or seatbelt is something that infringes on your rights? Anyone who has something productive to say without trying to act like some wanna be alpha male feel free to respond. Cheers
 
#24 ·
Aww is someone upset because I have a strong opinion and don't give a fuck if it offends people? Don't be pissed I know more about snowboarding than you ever will. If you want to step into that arena of argument and debate bring your man pants and a good understanding of google.

You are not from here so it is not your tax dollars being rolled into paying the police to go enforce this. California tried to do this a year or two ago and the bill didn't pass. Helmets might save lives but when it's our choice as to whether or not we will inherently risk ourselves that is the issue. Would you like it if the government suddenly said hey you know what you've been doing one way your whole life and we've never bothered you for it? Well now we want that to change because one person who had a bad ordeal suddenly feels the need to push their agenda on a whole state or even country. That's what we're dealing with.

Why would I want a police officer on the hill ticketing kids for not wearing a helmet when they could actually be doing something of real value? It's like this countries war on drugs we've lost it yet they keep shoving money at it thinking they'll fix the problem.

Your country is fucking desolate like to the point what 80% of it doesn't house people? Ours on the other hand is just urban sprawl with too many half wits taking up space eating high fructose corn syrup and letting t.v. drain their thought process. You're comparing your country which is a turd to ours which is an apple. Both might be round, ours might turn brown, but yours is still excrement.
 
#21 ·
Rights = freedom of choice. Anything that removes that freedom of choice is impacting rights.

I think you greatly underestimate just how highly the American founding fathers and early Americans in general valued freedoms and rights. They were willing to die for them and they were willing to kill for them. Today we all but beg for them to be taken away in the nane of safety because by and large this country now consists of a bunch of pussies.
 
#22 ·
Plus fucking ONE!!!!!!

I think everyone should wear a helmet...... I do not think it should be mandated that everyone should wear a helmet. It's my mellon and it should be my right to split it!!!!! at the same time - you should have no right to sue if said mellon becomes split without helmet;)
 
#30 ·
Not upset mate, just no reason to be the way you are no matter if you give a fuck or not about what people think, there is such a thing called tact, google it. And as far as snowboarding knowledge, no doubt you know more than me and i couldnt care less my life remains the same. As for our country well maybe you need to google some more mate as 80% of our country not being populated is by choice not by nessecity, and also it may have to do with the fact that we have less than 10% of the US's total population, so why wouldnt we live on the coast in our non over populted cities. Do yourself a favour and make a trip down here before making retarded statements about a country you know nothing about.

Back to the topic, i understand that sometimes you dont want to change things you have done all your life but are you saying that as times change then we shouldnt adapt? As life goes on we make new discoveries and gain knowledge so are we supposed to just live the way we used to? I could give a shit if you crack you head open if you know the dangers but why should we not try and protect our children and youth? As far as how much new legislation and laws cost only a lengthy (20+ years) study will probably show the savings or extra cost of enforcing helmet use vs medical cost related to head injuries. Im not going to get into the tax discussion (even though the US is taxed very low compared to most other western countries) and im not suggesting police need to monitor the new rule, i agree with whoever posted that the lift guys enforce it, if you hvae a ticket and no helmet = no ride. But for anyone to simply say that change is infringing against their rights is wrong, change is going to happen no matter what you want/do and no amount of complaining will change this, its how life works, we grow older, get wiser, and put in place systems to help protect our countries future.
 
#33 ·
The laws I have a problem with are the laws that do nothing to protect others. Wearing a helmet only protects the wearer. It's a personal choice. Someone not wearing a helmet is not going to cause unnecessary injury to someone else. So, why make a helmet law? If a choice is only going to cause possible injury to the person making the choice, then leave them the fuck alone.

As long as a choice isn't impacting the rights of others, then leave people the fuck alone. There's too much goddamn meddling going on in this country right now. Most people just want to be left the fuck alone. Then you have a small percentage of people that try to force their views on everyone else. That's when people like me get pissed off and start pushing back.
 
#37 ·
Most people just want to be left the fuck alone. Then you have a small percentage of people that try to force their views on everyone else.[/QUOTE]

^^^^Isnt that exactly what you are doing now? and what im doing?

I think the reason that governments enforce rules to protect iindividuals is so that they are not having to answer questions everyday as to why yet another motorist has been killed by not wearing a seatbelt, biker not wearign a helmet etc etc. The entire reason that a government puts laws in place like this is to protect their citizens? i mean we all know that police are there to "protect and serve" well think of some the laws the same way they are put in place so people in a functioning socity are not just dying left right and centre, no one physically forces you to comply with the laws, but if you dont and are caught doing so then there are consequences. If there is no law and no policies in place then how can a society function at all?

I do understand that you are talking about specific laws and i do not expect everyone in this world to think alike as it would be shit boring, but (talking about seatbelts now) when a law is in place that is PROVEN to save peoples lives and significantly reduce injuries, then why would you have a problem with that? What if in 20 years it is "proven" that putting a law in place for minors to wear helmets, would it still be an issue or would you welcome it? those 2 are serious questions im not having a go at you
 
#39 ·
^^^^Isnt that exactly what you are doing now? and what im doing?

I think the reason that governments enforce rules to protect iindividuals is so that they are not having to answer questions everyday as to why yet another motorist has been killed by not wearing a seatbelt, biker not wearign a helmet etc etc. The entire reason that a government puts laws in place like this is to protect their citizens? i mean we all know that police are there to "protect and serve" well think of some the laws the same way they are put in place so people in a functioning socity are not just dying left right and centre, no one physically forces you to comply with the laws, but if you dont and are caught doing so then there are consequences. If there is no law and no policies in place then how can a society function at all?

I do understand that you are talking about specific laws and i do not expect everyone in this world to think alike as it would be shit boring, but (talking about seatbelts now) when a law is in place that is PROVEN to save peoples lives and significantly reduce injuries, then why would you have a problem with that? What if in 20 years it is "proven" that putting a law in place for minors to wear helmets, would it still be an issue or would you welcome it? those 2 are serious questions im not having a go at you
The difference is that I'm saying to leave others alone as well as myself, not arguing about the merits of limiting others rights.

By your logic, we should just outlaw vehicles altogether. Studies have shown that those damn things are dangerous. Just think about all the lives that could be saved if we didn't have those things around.

I will never welcome laws limiting the rights of individuals to make choices on matters that only impact themselves. Ever.
 
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