Sorry never meant to imply that big rigs are better in snow. I did mean to imply that my civic is as good a winter vehicle for most people as your pickup, and most people who were sold a pickup or suv on the premise that it IS a winter vehicle would be much less hazard to themselves and others if they were in something smaller and lighter with less power.
I understand what u guys are saying, and i'm not gonna fall into some sort of causation/statistics/wtfever argument. I'm just trying to make basic real world comments about basic real world observations....not every 15 year old with a drivers permit should be driving an escalade 70mph to the mountains in a blizzard is an extreme example. U guys in ur pickup trucks i got no issues with (any consciencious, experienced in the conditions, adult for that matter) unfortunately this only accounts for a small fraction of a ton of traffic. Your 16 yr old daughter or wife who usually drives a z4 now driving the truck to the mountains, yea thats an argument i'm trying to make.
The fact is that there are a shitload of tourists who never drive in these conditions on the i70 corridor in all sorts of unfit vehicles for the occasion, as well as straight up weekend warriors who have the pedal to the metal in their bigass suvs with no regard to actual driving nuances.
i'm sure there are "flaws" in my logic or something but comeon, you guys got to share some of my observations. if i'm just blind, hell i'm willing to try to look. hell i'm even willing to be wrong, i just think theres a validity to my point.
...and to be fair to my civic, it kicks ass but mostly because i have gotten used to alot of the routes through the mountains, knowing where and when to floor it and downshift makes a big difference, a 6 or 8% slope will slow you down alot more when you arent ready for it.
edit. and to the point of the OP, for someone visiting, who has experience driving their yaris, i would say they would be better off in their yaris with snowtires, rather than driving some other "winter" vehicle that they have no experience driving. The gradation of the slopes and weather are enough challenge as a visitor without adding a completely different, difficult to stop vehicle that you have no experience driving. The snow tires truly make all the difference, and in your own vehicle will put you right at home in a snowstorm.
Last edited by snowklinger; 09-26-2011 at 11:01 PM.