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Old 09-27-2011, 05:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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1. Get 4 new snow tires. Like someone mentioned, a spare set of stealies with winters is the most convenient for swapping. NEVER do just the drive wheels, I spun out on a gradual highway corner because of this, fronts held, back slid = 360 and skid marks in my draws. Also studs, will be annoying on dry pavement. You'll want aggressive tires like winterforce's with FWD.
2. Get Chains just in case, they go on easy if you need them.
3. Make sure your wipers are in good condition and your washer fluid is full.
4. Find an empty, snowy, parking lot and do some brake tests, hard corners, etc. so you can see how easily your car will lose traction in the snow. Always leave plent of space from other vehicles.
5. Bring a Shovel and friends to push in case you get snowed in. If you cant get to the hill you will be pissed!!!

Be safe and have fun!

I took a couple road trips to CO from CT in my 94 jetta during college and all of them were a blast!
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:20 PM   #32 (permalink)
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ya know all of this talk of people seeing 4x4s crash/in the ditch, and i have seen NOBODY tell a story of the regular economy cars they have seen crashed or slid off the road, thats probably because if its bad enough most economy cars cant even realistically drive on the roads, save a few brave folks. One day coming down from the hill i saw 3 cars in a 5 mile stretch crashed and in the snow bank...and not one of them were awd or 4wd. From my experience at least, i have noticed that if someone spends the money on a 4x4, they generally know how to use it and dont do stupid shit. Its always the people that say screw it, im going to risk it and just take their civics out that slide off or crash. But thats just what i have observed. also people from california...the cali people move up here and its their first winter with real snow and ice and they have no clue what to do...so they crash into everything.
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:29 AM   #33 (permalink)
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This thread has me curious about studded tires, are they way better than non studded?( there not legal in mn)

I have little experience with snow tires, but i had a pair once and while they handle in regular winter driving conditions better, I was disappointed because they didn't really get me through any deeper snow than the all seasons I had before.

How bad are the driving conditions to the point you put on chains?

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Old 09-28-2011, 01:28 AM   #34 (permalink)
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studded tires used to be "way better", however with modern snow tires, they are not so much better. perhaps on a frozen lake you would see performance difference, and for some vehicles like the CMT passenger vans they are not a bad idea. studs suck when you dont need them too, giving less grip in dry and wet conditions when there is no snow or ice.

studless winter tires are the way to go for most people. this technology has changed alot over the last decade or so fwiw.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:32 AM   #35 (permalink)
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studs only really help grip on ice. For a 2wd car when to put chains on always varies by condition, but its usually when there is ice, or 4 or more inches of lose snow (also depending on steepness of road). Atleast thats what I have always considered time to put on chains. The road from salt lake to snowbird, alta, and all of thoes ski resorts has different levels of snow gear required for different levels of road conditions. As i remember, Green- any car can get up, Yellow-Cars need snow tires and must carry chains if not 4wd or awd, Red- Must have snow tires and 4wd or snow tires and chains
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Save yourself the money and buy decent chains instead of getting your tires studded. Studs wont make a difference if there is a lot of snow on the road, only if it's iced over. Plus they ruin the roads. There are so many people here who drive with studs during the off season is crazy.
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hardly ever gets stuck in the snow, good at traversing ravines and small ditches.

Gas mileage isn't very good, but you can park it wherever you want without fear of being towed

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oh i dont plan on purchasing either chains or studded tires, i was just curious since i have never even seen either one.
I really get around quite well in my acura with all seasons, untill there's 10 or so inches of snow on the roads and at that point i really have no buisness being on the roads in the first place.
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God in Cali they are so anal about the chain laws. They put up a chain check (highway 18 only way to bear) make people put on chains if not 4x4. Although 4x4 are supposed to carry chains. If you dont put on your chains there is a chip sitting for you about a mile up waiting to give you a fatty ticket.
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right, so i have a opinion/ preference question for all of you winter driving experts and since we were discussing winter driving here i decided this is as good of a place as any.

so for driving in the snow, when there is a lot of fresh snow, lets say anything more than 6", possibly unplowed, which vehicle do you guys think would do better/be safer to drive in. an 03 awd subaru outback with new ALL SEASON tires, or a 99 2wd ext cab toyota tacoma with at least 300 lbs in the back and snow chains.
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