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I don't know if its a 'we all hate burton thing'. Maybe there are a ton of other good products out there as well, and people here (on this particular forum) like researching and finding gear that best suits them.

As mentioned pricing comes into it and sometimes burton seems to be slightly on the expensive-side for a comparable product. For example, someone was posting looking at three jackets (1 burton, 1 ThirtyTwo, 1 Special Blend) all similar prices, the burton was 5k waterproof while the other two were 10k and just generally better products... if they went with the higher spec special blend then burton still got the sale.

Burton also owns Anon, R.E.D, Analog, Forum, Special Blend, Foursquare so they've got a big chunk of the market and certainly ain't missing out on any of the action... correct me if i'm wrong (i'm no expert)
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No one can be critical of the other brands? I can shit on just about every brand on earth for one of their products if you want. Educate yourself outside this forum whole world of reviews and knowledge out there. The Angry Snowboarder good starting point right there.

Since its sorta on-topic, I've been wondering about BA's handle for awhile now... does it imply that he is a champion (super hero style) for Burton...or a hater (this seems likely as hatin' [read critical ] is what he's good at).

Just always found a curious irony/disconnect with BA's written content and his handle, wonder from whence it hails and meaning.

(if anyone cares I always put Klinger in my handles cuz I'm a huge M*A*S*H fan and will kill it in a dress )
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hes actually jakes illegitimate son.
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That's the thing about irony snowklinger. It's so fucking ironic...
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That's the thing about irony snowklinger. It's so fucking ironic...
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They give Shaun White a pro model and don't give Terje a pro model. Reason enough not to buy a board from them.
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compare the burton custom with a NS SL? same price point what are the differences? I've always heard the custom is a great board...on these message boards I see no love...strange?

The Custom is an okay board, but it hasn't got a 3 year warranty, newer tech and the bombproof build. It's just another cambered board.

The whole point of the Burton "hate" is that it shouldn't be at the same price point as NS or other such companies. Personally, I'd put the Custom $125-$150 lower, maybe more. At its current price point, it's a disappointing purchase. And in my experience, that goes for pretty much everything Burton. I've bought some sale stuff and been pretty happy, but then found out the original MSRP was something utterly ridiculous
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They're expensive, corporate, and not that good. If you want quality Burton products your paying higher than any other in the market and the quality is still equal to the average of other companies for much less. The main reason I personally refuse to buy from them is because they have shit products and they aren't what snowboarding is about (at least to me). The only Burton stuff I've owned were socks and the heels got holes in them after about five days of riding. They also only care about money. They sponsor people like SW and then treat the real riders like shit. I can't remember who it was, but there was a young kid that was about 18 or so. He was a BC rider and got hurt to the point where he couldn't ride for a season....so what does Burton do. Instead of sticking to there riders they drop him. Companies like Rome, Ride, NS, Libtech, and GNU are the real companies. You can tell a lot about a company by who they sponsor. The only people I respect from Burton are JJ, Terje, KP and Muller. Now unfortunately they got Jackson. Bottom line, they don't care about snowboarding.

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I don't know if its a 'we all hate burton thing'. Maybe there are a ton of other good products out there as well, and people here (on this particular forum) like researching and finding gear that best suits them.

As mentioned pricing comes into it and sometimes burton seems to be slightly on the expensive-side for a comparable product. For example, someone was posting looking at three jackets (1 burton, 1 ThirtyTwo, 1 Special Blend) all similar prices, the burton was 5k waterproof while the other two were 10k and just generally better products... if they went with the higher spec special blend then burton still got the sale.

Burton also owns Anon, R.E.D, Analog, Forum, Special Blend, Foursquare so they've got a big chunk of the market and certainly ain't missing out on any of the action... correct me if i'm wrong (i'm no expert)
They do own them, it's a shame too. The only one of those companies I buy from is Special Blend, becasue they do make really quality stuff. I feel real shitty when I buy it though.

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