Seems like snowboard companies are going lean this year - Page 2 - Snowboarding Forum

wrathfuldeity · 11-02-2011, 02:34 PM

They were also lean last winter. Around here if you want top of the heap stick, you pre-order or go in once a week to see when the stock arrives and buy. At the swaps this year there was basically crap, was pricier and no good boards...only bought some $3 mittens. Over the summer, had folks offering to buy my old option northshore, charlie slasher and banana.

chrisj · 11-02-2011, 02:38 PM

I am guessing it will be like this for at least another 1-2 years.

DrnknZag · 11-03-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by turbospartan

Just wanted to point out that Never Summer had all of their boards already accounted for before they even started building them.

They make a specific amount of boards each year, of which all are already accounted for.

They only sell the boards to the shops that they have an agreement with, to try and keep it based more in "local" shops rather than Dick's, REI, big box stores, etc.

Wow I knew NS was lean, but that's pretty cool. No wonder you never see any Never Summers for sale late season.

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Originally Posted by linvillegorge

Burton is the worst. They bully the retailers into buying all their stock. They won't let you carry their product unless you commit to carrying a certain percentage of the lineup and a ridiculous volume. It's why so many local shops don't carry Burton. They simply can't afford to purchase the inventory required and they know they won't be able to cycle through it all.

Burton doesn't care that there's a lot of oversold stock in retailers. They got theirs.

I've always hated how Burton did that. Hopefully more shops will stop carrying them and make them stop this process.

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Originally Posted by chrisj

I am guessing it will be like this for at least another 1-2 years.

I wouldn't be surprised if every company started doing this and it lasting for a long long time.

dreampow · 11-03-2011, 06:48 PM

I don't know about the states but here in Japan the number of boards sold has dropped steadily over the last few years.
Less and less people getting into the sport because it does take up quite a bit of cash.

Seems natural they would hold back on production a bit.

For me that means more untracked snow and no lines at the lifts(specially week days)

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Bones · 11-03-2011, 08:56 PM

I like this method. Reduce supply, control your costs and stay stable. Good for competition in the market place and a sound strategy in these uncertain economic times.

And while prices will probably stay up there, I'd think that companies will have to focus on quality and innovation to keep their niche and name.

wrathfuldeity · 11-04-2011, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dreampow

I don't know about the states but here in Japan the number of boards sold has dropped steadily over the last few years.
Less and less people getting into the sport because it does take up quite a bit of cash.

Seems natural they would hold back on production a bit.

For me that means more untracked snow and no lines at the lifts(specially week days)

.

Also the "cool kids" are going into skiing; the rockered twin fatties are huge. Its the geezers that are doing boarding. On the middle/high school ski bus program, a few years ago more boarders than skiers, last year way more skiers than boarders and would expect it to continue.

tribalsounds · 11-04-2011, 07:21 AM

Hey guys,

I'm having a hard time finding online NS retailers in Europe that have a wide variety in stock and send all over europe. Could you recommend anybody? Companies like "Blue Tomato" don't stock Never Summer boards.

zk0ot · 11-04-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tribalsounds

Hey guys,

I'm having a hard time finding online NS retailers in Europe that have a wide variety in stock and send all over europe. Could you recommend anybody? Companies like "Blue Tomato" don't stock Never Summer boards.

You're out of place in this thread. try the neversummer site.

tribalsounds · 11-04-2011, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by dreampow
"I don't know about the states but here in Japan the number of boards sold has dropped steadily over the last few years.
Less and less people getting into the sport because it does take up quite a bit of cash.

Seems natural they would hold back on production a bit.

For me that means more untracked snow and no lines at the lifts(specially week days). "

I don't see how im so off topic here......you guys were talking about production of boards steadily decreasing so I stated the problem of finding NS in Europe.

notter123 · 11-04-2011, 09:44 AM

yea its off topic bud, they are talking about how companies are only procuding enough to fill the demand and no more... how does that relate to your inability to find a company that ships boards to europe?

back on topic now....

I think its good that companies are doing this now, the whole supply and demand thing makes a little more sense to me then just producing x amount of boards and only being able to sell 3/4 of them and then scrambling giving huge deals to get rid of overstock.

I love how the point was brought up that it will raise the market for used boards too, which is true but I find it funny cuz alot of people on here would never recommend buying a used board in the first place!

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wrathfuldeity Resident poet Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bham Posts: 2,734	They were also lean last winter. Around here if you want top of the heap stick, you pre-order or go in once a week to see when the stock arrives and buy. At the swaps this year there was basically crap, was pricier and no good boards...only bought some $3 mittens. Over the summer, had folks offering to buy my old option northshore, charlie slasher and banana. __________________

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tribalsounds Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 14	European Retailers? Hey guys, I'm having a hard time finding online NS retailers in Europe that have a wide variety in stock and send all over europe. Could you recommend anybody? Companies like "Blue Tomato" don't stock Never Summer boards.

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11-02-2011, 02:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
chrisj Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 22	I am guessing it will be like this for at least another 1-2 years.

11-03-2011, 06:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
dreampow Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Kyoto Japan Posts: 1,056	I don't know about the states but here in Japan the number of boards sold has dropped steadily over the last few years. Less and less people getting into the sport because it does take up quite a bit of cash. Seems natural they would hold back on production a bit. For me that means more untracked snow and no lines at the lifts(specially week days).

11-03-2011, 08:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 827	I like this method. Reduce supply, control your costs and stay stable. Good for competition in the market place and a sound strategy in these uncertain economic times. And while prices will probably stay up there, I'd think that companies will have to focus on quality and innovation to keep their niche and name.

11-04-2011, 09:28 AM	#19 (permalink)
tribalsounds Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 14	Originally Posted by dreampow "I don't know about the states but here in Japan the number of boards sold has dropped steadily over the last few years. Less and less people getting into the sport because it does take up quite a bit of cash. Seems natural they would hold back on production a bit. For me that means more untracked snow and no lines at the lifts(specially week days). " I don't see how im so off topic here......you guys were talking about production of boards steadily decreasing so I stated the problem of finding NS in Europe.

11-04-2011, 09:44 AM	#20 (permalink)
notter123 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 303	yea its off topic bud, they are talking about how companies are only procuding enough to fill the demand and no more... how does that relate to your inability to find a company that ships boards to europe? back on topic now.... I think its good that companies are doing this now, the whole supply and demand thing makes a little more sense to me then just producing x amount of boards and only being able to sell 3/4 of them and then scrambling giving huge deals to get rid of overstock. I love how the point was brought up that it will raise the market for used boards too, which is true but I find it funny cuz alot of people on here would never recommend buying a used board in the first place!