nova scotia is passing a new helmet law. - Page 3 - Snowboarding Forum

Random Hero · 12-07-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jegnorge

yup there shouldnt be a helmet law. because it interferes with darwin's law. a person can die from hitting the skull at merely 15kph (read this somewhere), if someone is dumb enough to not wear a helmet while doing something dangerous, even if he doesn't die from cracking his head open, he will do something else dumb and die. natural selection.

Riding down a snow covered mountain on a piece of wood sounds pretty fucking stupid to me regardless of helmet usage.

wrathfuldeity · 12-07-2011, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jegnorge

yup there shouldnt be a helmet law. because it interferes with darwin's law. a person can die from hitting the skull at merely 15kph (read this somewhere), if someone is dumb enough to not wear a helmet while doing something dangerous, even if he doesn't die from cracking his head open, he will do something else dumb and die. natural selection.

How about,
wearing a helmet > crash = we'll bring around the bucket...
no helmet > crash = leave u to flop and twitch.

Chef Jer · 12-07-2011, 07:59 PM

I think people should have the choice to were helmets (personally highly recommend it)... but the Gov should not mandate it.

Bones · 12-07-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean-h

In other words, Canadian government continues to pay for in full whatever health care they normally pay for, but if you have an accident in an extreme situation, such as snowboarding, high speed watersports etc, you, the injured pay the first $500, or whatever.

??

There are no deductibles in the Canadian Health Care system. You just pay a lot in taxes and have a 6 month wait for an MRI

**Donutz** · 12-07-2011, 08:23 PM

They were just talking about it on the news. Apparently helmet use is somewhere around 88% already, so wtf do they hope to accomplish? The remaining 12% didn't just "not notice" helmets -- they're people who will not wear a helmet no matter what.

The "dangerous" argument just doesn't wash. If you rank things in terms of danger and in terms of how much they cost the system, there are a lot of activities that would rank higher. In fact, on that basis they should make hockey illegal. I don't see that happening.

This is IMO simply a case where a government wants to be seen to be doing something about something. They've picked a subject that's surface plausible and that's unlikely to have an organized opposition to kick up a loud fuss.

I agree with laws that protect people from other people, but IMO your own life is your own business. That includes right-to-die, btw.

AcroPhile · 12-07-2011, 08:38 PM

It's absolutely ridiculous. There's a lot to be said about the left here but then again this isn't in the political section.

Bones · 12-07-2011, 08:53 PM

I love the fact that the former head of the Canadian Safety Council says:

“It’s goofy. It’s feel-good legislation that makes the government look good,” Therien told the Toronto Star Wednesday, adding the Council does not favour mandatory helmet use because it raises questions of enforcement and related challenges."

roremc · 12-07-2011, 10:07 PM

Lots of lols in the this thread.

I dont care either way to be honest. Anyone who doesnt wear one is stupid IMO. Same thing as not wearing a seat belt. You may get away with it for years but when you need it and dont have it you will be sorry.

Oh and I am more than happy to pay more tax for good healthcare. Not sure where you live bones but I had an MRI on my knee last year and had to wait 4 weeks!

Bones · 12-07-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by roremc

Oh and I am more than happy to pay more tax for good healthcare. Not sure where you live bones but I had an MRI on my knee last year and had to wait 4 weeks!

I'm in Ottawa and MRI machines are thin on the ground and pretty backed up around here. The wait time depends on the injury.

Overall, Canadian healthcare isn't bad. I've got an aging mother so I'm getting a closer look at it nowadays, but overall it's not bad.

Healthcare costs are a red herring when it comes to helmet laws, though. The annual number of emergency room trips caused by snowsport accidents are probably far exceeded by daily car accidents in a single large city.

This is all about optics and liability

MistahTaki · 12-07-2011, 11:59 PM

Why is it stupid? I think most people who don't wear helmets are well aware of the possible consequences and are okay with that. Its just a personal choice. I think people who keep poor diets, drink alcohol, smoke, ect are stupid. Sounds stupid

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12-07-2011, 08:23 PM	#25 (permalink)
Donutz Drunk with power...er beer. Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 3,669 Blog Entries: 176	They were just talking about it on the news. Apparently helmet use is somewhere around 88% already, so wtf do they hope to accomplish? The remaining 12% didn't just "not notice" helmets -- they're people who will not wear a helmet no matter what. The "dangerous" argument just doesn't wash. If you rank things in terms of danger and in terms of how much they cost the system, there are a lot of activities that would rank higher. In fact, on that basis they should make hockey illegal. I don't see that happening. This is IMO simply a case where a government wants to be seen to be doing something about something. They've picked a subject that's surface plausible and that's unlikely to have an organized opposition to kick up a loud fuss. I agree with laws that protect people from other people, but IMO your own life is your own business. That includes right-to-die, btw. __________________ Illegitimi non carborundum Mountain Days: 30

12-07-2011, 10:07 PM	#28 (permalink)
roremc Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Banff, Alberta Posts: 1,107	Lots of lols in the this thread. I dont care either way to be honest. Anyone who doesnt wear one is stupid IMO. Same thing as not wearing a seat belt. You may get away with it for years but when you need it and dont have it you will be sorry. Oh and I am more than happy to pay more tax for good healthcare. Not sure where you live bones but I had an MRI on my knee last year and had to wait 4 weeks! __________________ So many runs so little time.

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12-07-2011, 07:59 PM	#23 (permalink)
Chef Jer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 395	I think people should have the choice to were helmets (personally highly recommend it)... but the Gov should not mandate it.

12-07-2011, 08:38 PM	#26 (permalink)
AcroPhile Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Denver Posts: 629	It's absolutely ridiculous. There's a lot to be said about the left here but then again this isn't in the political section.

12-07-2011, 08:53 PM	#27 (permalink)
Bones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 826	I love the fact that the former head of the Canadian Safety Council says: “It’s goofy. It’s feel-good legislation that makes the government look good,” Therien told the Toronto Star Wednesday, adding the Council does not favour mandatory helmet use because it raises questions of enforcement and related challenges."

12-07-2011, 11:59 PM	#30 (permalink)
MistahTaki Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,362	Why is it stupid? I think most people who don't wear helmets are well aware of the possible consequences and are okay with that. Its just a personal choice. I think people who keep poor diets, drink alcohol, smoke, ect are stupid. Sounds stupid