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? about strapping in to the board?

This is no doubt a "basic" question, and it takes a bit to fully explain, but I have had a bit of trouble getting an answer when asking the "Shop Pro's" or when I've asked a few folks out on the slopes.

I Just started boarding end of Last season. I had a lot of trouble with pain in my feet. Bought & returned 3 different pairs of boots before keeping my 10.5 Thirty Two's. ALL the sales advice was, "get the boots as snug as you can stand, lace them up as TIGHT as you can, Ratchet the bindings,.. (you guessed it!) As tight as you can!! You don't want your heel to lift AT ALL!"

I couldn't stand to stay strapped into my board longer than one or two trips down the hill. (...the "small" local hill!) My feet hurt SO bad!! Especially my lead foot as it was always strapped in. It got so bad sometimes that the pain actually got a lot worse for a few minutes after I unstrapped or took off the boot! (BTW my boots are ST Boa's, so they could get REAL tight!)

Now, as I was usually riding some really icy, hard conditions most of this time,.. I felt like I needed to be strapped in this tight just to have any control in the board!

Right around the last two weeks of the season, I finally wound up riding the lift with an instructor who when I mentioned how much my feet hurt,.. told me I had my boots WAY too tight! His advice was loosen up on the boots & If I needed to go "tight", go tight with the bindings! This help quite a bit! I can stay strapped in a lot longer without the same pain issues, especially when I loosen the bindings a notch or two at the bottom b4 getting back on the lift!

This has helped the comfort issue a lot this season, but my main question now is, (...to make a "short story, Long"!)

I have still been ratcheting into my bindings very tight! All this time, it felt as though I "Needed" this degree of being strapped in to have any control going heel to toe & back! Last trip out, I was getting some discomfort and decided on one trip down the slope, Not to CRANK my bindings down on the boots.

...That run, It actually seemed like it was "Easier" to transition heel to toe & vise versa??? My turns seemed to be smoother, tighter, less skidded.

Now the temp was just above freezing & the snow was softer, (soft but not slushy) so I can't say for sure that this would be the same in the "Hard, Icy" stuff, but I tried this "Looser" set up on my next few runs and it really does seem like my turns were easier and more controlled than when I was CRANKED down & glued into the board & bindings?

Have I stumbled onto something that I should have learned early on? Or am I cruising for a dislocated ankle?

I really would appreciate some feedback on this!

Thanks in advance!
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seems like a common problem for new folks

everything should just be "snug," not cranked down all the way,

your boots should fit well enough to prevent heel lift when they are snug, people over tighten to compensate poorly fitted boots.
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Thanks Riley212,

Spent the day today at a local hill and I kept things "Snug" but not cranked down! The comfort was Sooo much better, I stayed in the bindings WAY longer without feeling pain and got many more runs in without having to stop, unstrap and let my dogs scream. Also, my turns really do feel more fluid & natural. Easier to initiate and smoother, less forcing and wrenching the board around.

(...still crashin' occasionally gettin' off the lifts!)
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Riley hit it on point.

Your not trying to bind your feet (like ancient Chinese women)but they should definitely fit you snugly. I have BOA boots so I can't really comment on tying it up with laces but I know if I over tighten the wires my feet will hurt as well only after a few runs. Unfortunately I also suffer from slight heel lift as I have narrow feet.

Also have you tried getting the lining heat molded? might also help add to your comfort.
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Its really easy to get BOA boots too tight, but its easy enough to loosen them and try again.

Glad your feet are feeling better!
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On my flow bindings i tend to ratchet the top as tight as it goes. The toes i ratchet till i feel pain, and let off about 2 notches. I used to just crank it as tight as possible, the discomfort made it much harder to ride.

On my normal bindings (burton missions & customs), I dont't get any discomfort if I do them tight, so i just ratchet them till they look snug. My missions are on my evo, which is only 150, and if i take it out for a cruise instead of the park, the toe strap sometimes comes off beacuse of drag. I can still ride fine ... So tightness doesnt matter so much
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Riley hit it on point.

Your not trying to bind your feet (like ancient Chinese women):
LOL, ...that's EXACTLY what it felt like I was doing to my feet!

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...Also have you tried getting the lining heat molded? might also help add to your comfort.

Unfortunately I did have my boots heat molded near the end of last season. When I was still cranking boots & bindings WAY too tight. So they're feeling a bit loose now that I'm backing off. I think I probably packed them out somewhat prematurely because of that & over-tightening everything.

I have the opposite of your problem. I'm a 10.5 EEE in street's. It's really too bad, the Thirty Two's were the only boots I tried that felt good in a 10.5. Had to go with 11's in all the others I tried just to accommodate my super WIDE dogs! ...and those DID let my heel shift around some, even when uncomfortably tight. (Thank heaven for REI's "satisfation guarantee")

Oh Well! If this seems to become an issue now that I'm "Livin' Loose" I'll just have to finish killin' off the credit card & slap some new boots on the sucker!

I'm just happy that my control seems to have improved some with this "looser" set up,.. and this past Monday, I stayed strapped in for hours without needing to get my feet out of boots & bindings due to pain! Got many more runs in this way!

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On my flow bindings i tend to ratchet the top as tight as it goes. The toes i ratchet till i feel pain, and let off about 2 notches. I used to just crank it as tight as possible, the discomfort made it much harder to ride.

On my normal bindings (burton missions & customs), I dont't get any discomfort if I do them tight, so i just ratchet them till they look snug. My missions are on my evo, which is only 150, and if i take it out for a cruise instead of the park, the toe strap sometimes comes off beacuse of drag. I can still ride fine ... So tightness doesnt matter so much
I noticed this yesterday. When I had them synched down tight I would far and could barely
Take my foot out of my m9"s. I loosened it up a little and
I was way smoother.. It was not like riding on a knifes edge.
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