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Old 01-12-2012, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What are you all wearing for mid layers? I just figure out that the thin base layer I had under my pretty much non insulated ride snowpants isn't cutting it. Also, my new jacket is only a shell. A base layer, a long sleeve polyester thin shirt and a zip up polyester fleece isn't cutting it either. The jacket fleece is VERY thin, another I have is a bit thicker.

Just wondering, all these fleeces I see on dogfunk, evo, backcounry etc - how much thicker/warmer are they vs what you would buy in a dept store for 30 or 40? Onsale I have a few from 15 bux and they are made of teh 'right materials' it seems, just maybe not as thick.

I'm goign to get some fleece pants for under teh snowpants, but wondering what is a low cost alternative for midlayers for under a jacket? I think its kinda crazy to spend 150-200 for a med-thick fleece dont you? Maybe it is made of better quality; however, both my DC jacket and RIDE snowpants already have threads pulling out after only 5 rides this season! I really dont want to spend too much on layers if they are fails in a season or two...

IS there a place to find cheap clothing that will work as well? ESpecially midlayers? THX!
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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right now, a t-shirt and pajama pants.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If it's warm >30F

lightweight capilene and shell pants on the bottom. long sleeve capilene, sometimes a fleece vest, and shell on top.

If it's colder 10 -30F

light silk base bottoms, loose fit polartec mid weight bottoms, shell pants. Long sleeve capilene on top, patagonia pull over down sweater, and shell on top.

Colder than that I usually just add better gloves/liners, socks, and face mask.

no cotton
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For pants I have a pair of "heavy weight" underwear from REI. They are essentially a light fleece, about 10x thicker then my polartech or micro underwear. This layer provides me comfort from -0f to about 15-18f (above 20 and I'm too hot). If those 2 layers aren't enough, you can do a skin tight "light" underwear, followed by a midweight "relaxed" fit, followed by the fleece pant, but that's like Denali shit , I'm snowboarding, not taking a nap in a frozen lake.

Same steps for top, wear 2 stages of underwear to reduce bulk, then just something nice and warm between those and your shell like aforementioned down sweater, or thick heavy fleece.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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OK, I've a few ideas about this.

For my mid layer on the top, I have a dakine mid-weight top...it was reasonably pricey, and I have found that a $20 fleece provides the same warmth, but not the same wicking.

If cold enough to wear a bottom mid layer, I have some sessions shorts mid layer things that i wear, they are pretty damned nice, and I wish i could wear them around like PJ's at the moment, but its too damned warm....and they are in another country.


Wicking = essential
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For my bottom half I have my base layer, then boots, socks, knee pads, and under wear. More then that is almost never needed. When it's cold enough I wear some basketball shorts. Up top I'll put on an athletic t-shirt, a running jacket, or my oldnavy fleece depending on cold.
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I wear under armor thermal layer top and bottom down to about 5 degrees fahrenheit. Pants and jacket and thick gloves. I MIGHT get cold if I just stand outside at the top of the lift for 20 minutes, but when I've moving I get warm and toasty.
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Upper mid layer is a Carhart insulated hoodie, 30 bucks or so, has a mesh liner for wicking. Lower mid layer, insulated (Nike) wind pants, same mesh wicking liner.
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Under my goretex shell i wear:

SmartWool midweight zip collar base layer - can't beat wool
Patagonia R2 fleece - super light weight and comfortable. fit is perfect for me.

If its less than 15-20F, i'll add a medium weight wool sweater. Just a cheap GAP sweater.

So far i haven't needed more than that.
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I don't use a mid layer. Just a base and shell.

Under Armour 2.0 or 3.0 base layer depending on temps.

The times I will use mid layers are when it's ambient -25C (-13F) outside and switch to a 700 down count North Face parka. Only had to did this once 2 years ago and I was renting gear at the time so I didn't really care about the equipment. I remember the plastic binding straps snapping on me twice - each time because I brought the rental equipment inside to warmth and then back out into the freeze.
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