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Binding ? From on the hill! Toeside Turns?

I just noticed today while on the lift at Crystal Mountain MI., Although my footbeds are centered on my board, my boot heel is about an inch-inch & half over the back of the board and my toes are lined right up with the toe edge of the board.

Would this account for my having occasional difficulty in transitioning smoothly to my topside turns? (That was meant to be Toe-side turn,.. stupid auto spell)
I can link my turns and I AM making the toeside turns, but from time to time, they feel like they're hard to initiate "Smoothly"!! Meaning at speed or on a steeper slope, or sharp turn, I sometimes have to do a lot of twisting and jerking my rear foot around to get turned.

And when I get switch,.. I can ride it out straight as long as I'm pressuring the heel edge, I can make a switch heel side turn very easy and comfortably but as soon as I try to initiate a toeside turn switch, I get all wonky & usually spin it out or fall. I almost never make it Back to link another heel side turn.

Is having my toes in line with the edge of the board causing me to lose the leverage needed for a more Fine Tuned controlled turn?
I am just looking for confirmation of my thinking on this. Before I go messing too much with the binding setup. I am riding a lot better & turning but I was wondering if this heel overhang was the reason for my occasional difficulties?

I am riding regular on a directional twin, Arbor Roundhouse - 163 W. Burton Cartel bindings.

BTW, haven't noticed my heel side turns washing out due to the heel overhang.

Any advice appreciated as I'm on the hills all this week on vacation. I would love it if I could finally get comfortable riding & turning switch before this shitty season is over!! (Going from soft dry fine snow yesterday with temps in the low 20"s to damn near FIFTY FREAKIN' DEGREES today!!!! IN FEBRUARY FOR SHIT SAKE!!!)

Hope It doesn't stay like this the rest of the week!
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You definitely want to make sure you have an equal amount of toe/heel overhang if your boot is larger than the deck.

Make the adjustment to be as close to equal as possible and you'll see your riding improve.

Lastly, you won't get a heel "washout" as you are actually able to transfer more pressure to that edge relative to the toe. It probably feels super solid, which won't be the case when you switch the binding.

Best of luck.
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Not sure how cartels work, but I would assume you can adjust them to even things out. Your bigger problem is spending a week at Crystal, hopefully not your choice.
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Not sure how cartels work, but I would assume you can adjust them to even things out. Your bigger problem is spending a week at Crystal, hopefully not your choice.
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Not sure how cartels work, but I would assume you can adjust them to even things out. Your bigger problem is spending a week at Crystal, hopefully not your choice.
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Whoa whoa soldier, what is your malfunction with Crystal Mountain!?!
I think there are far better options available in that "area"....Caberfae, Shanty Creek, Nubs. I don't understand why people drive the extra time to get to Crystal "Mountain" when there is far better terrain at Caberfae and way better prices. I only wish that Sugarloaf was still open.
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You think Cab and Shanty are better? What type of riding do you do? I can see how some people would prefer nubs/boyne/highlands over Crystal, but I cannot see how one would prefer Cab or Shanty over Crystal.

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By the way, you're yet another MI rider that never posts in the Michigan thread... SLACKER!

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I just noticed today while on the lift at Crystal Mountain MI., Although my footbeds are centered on my board, my boot heel is about an inch-inch & half over the back of the board and my toes are lined right up with the toe edge of the board.

Would this account for my having occasional difficulty in transitioning smoothly to my topside turns? (That was meant to be Toe-side turn,.. stupid auto spell)
I can link my turns and I AM making the toeside turns, but from time to time, they feel like they're hard to initiate "Smoothly"!! Meaning at speed or on a steeper slope, or sharp turn, I sometimes have to do a lot of twisting and jerking my rear foot around to get turned.

And when I get switch,.. I can ride it out straight as long as I'm pressuring the heel edge, I can make a switch heel side turn very easy and comfortably but as soon as I try to initiate a toeside turn switch, I get all wonky & usually spin it out or fall. I almost never make it Back to link another heel side turn.

Is having my toes in line with the edge of the board causing me to lose the leverage needed for a more Fine Tuned controlled turn?
I am just looking for confirmation of my thinking on this. Before I go messing too much with the binding setup. I am riding a lot better & turning but I was wondering if this heel overhang was the reason for my occasional difficulties?

I am riding regular on a directional twin, Arbor Roundhouse - 163 W. Burton Cartel bindings.

BTW, haven't noticed my heel side turns washing out due to the heel overhang.

Any advice appreciated as I'm on the hills all this week on vacation. I would love it if I could finally get comfortable riding & turning switch before this shitty season is over!! (Going from soft dry fine snow yesterday with temps in the low 20"s to damn near FIFTY FREAKIN' DEGREES today!!!! IN FEBRUARY FOR SHIT SAKE!!!)

Hope It doesn't stay like this the rest of the week!
TIA
Balance out your binding setup but i am sad to say this is not your problem, or probably not much of it, that would be too easy a fix. I have same problems, standing up too straight is apparently a lot of he cause, trying to bend my knees more.
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