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Damn Skiers!

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#1 ·
Finally a place to let all that anger out. Vent all that built up anger towards ignorant skiers (or even snowboarders for that matter)
Tell stories of pure disregard for courtesy or common sense. Skier kept cutting you off? They took up the entire run as their new 4 lane wide turning zone? Yell something about those "Damn Snowboarders" as they ran away from an accident they caused. Tell us about it.
 
#105 ·
Ive had skiers actually look uphill at me bombing down and purposely change their line...to coincide with mine! Yes it is the responsibility of the faster mover to avoid slower traffic, but when this shit happens, I will, at the very least, ride over their skis. That said...the last two people to run into me and cause damage to my board have been inexperienced boarders on trails far too advanced for them. Conclusion...I hate people all together!

But yes, skiers in particular, are far more snooty than any boarder I have come across. I think snowboarding is a humbling experience. People who have progressed have a great appreciation for the sport and tend to (on average) have far better attitudes toward others. That has been my mostly SoCal experience.
 
#106 ·
My brother is a skier. he is my favorite weapon when arrogant skiers start to run their mouths....last time on a lift with me and 3 skiers, one of the 2 said "itd be easier if you just rode the t-bar or went up with other ***** snowboarders" to which he immediately replied "heres a thought, why dont you mind your own f*cking business...say another word on this whole ride and ill eject both your f*cking skis and we will see who should be riding the t-bar." pulls out his flask takes a drink while staring at these goofs and says "awful quiet over there now, hey?"

hahahaha:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:

skiers are assholes, but not all of them! Had some good times with some skiers I met on lifts and did a few runs together. its the same everywhere....generally people are cool, but there are always a few assholes that give everyone a bad name.

Edit
*for the record my bro looks like a total gapper...he has the denim look snowpants that he sewed a wrangler patch on, and always wears his cowboy hat while skiing....its a sight to see, especially when he is bombing as he is a VERY advanced skier, haha*
 
#110 ·
SOme horror stories.

I have to say that in 5 years riding Kirkwood I never met such types. But Kirkwood is famous for people that just loves to ride or ski better than bitching.
That said my in ear earphones are great at blocking that chatter out on the chair... and I'm too busy enjoying the powder to care about them anyway.

I skied until I was 25 or so... switched at 40. Never even thinking about going back on planks.
 
#111 ·
I'll share my one story that only really happened this season.

Back around the 24th of February we had a weekend in the Cottonwoods that saw like, I don't know 4" of snow. EVERYBODY and their dog came out of the woodwork, and the line up to AltaBird was apparently terrible. So, Solitude and Brighton saw more than our fair share of Alta skiers that weekend.

Brighton never has lift lines, and the rare occasions that we do they move quickly any way. That day my wife and I were standing in line and I got a bit ahead of her and looked back and said "You just need to push through real quick so we can get on with the next 2-some." Well, this older skier (probably mid 40's) was standing next to me with his wife and I guess his son and the girlfriend. He looks over at his wife and says "She better not push through me, or she might find herself knocked over."

I was in such shock that I couldn't respond. First, the line was not terrible so it wouldn't have slowed this guy down at all, and second I couldn't believe he basically threatened violence on a tiny woman. Luckily his wife called him out for being an ass hat before I stopped being so dumbfounded by it all.
 
#113 ·
missing the time when I was laid off, with a season pass and it was dumping every week in Kirkwood. Some epic Wednesdays. 40 days on the slopes mostly powder...and solo chair every single time.
 
#115 ·
hmmm, i thought the recent trend back to skiing was because parents typically start their kids off there for one reason or another (it's easier to pick up is what i typically hear). then once they get older they move onto snowboarding which is the "cool" thing. but since skiing has shed its hoity-toity connotations and has become cool again, fewer are making that transition; kind of explains the rise in skiing occurring at the same time as the decline in snowboarding. just my two cents.

anyway, i started to do both and i can see what makes one choose their weapon over the other. when i ski with my snowboarding friends, i can see that they have more fun with their ground tricks, riding switch, etc. on the other hand, i really enjoy the feeling of banking a hard turn on skis much more than on a snowboard. not to mention if we miss a fork i don't need to hop back up. plus, moguls are more fun.

on the flip side, when i snowboard with my skiing friends, i do get jealous of how they can bomb down the moguls without a care in the world and how i have to anticipate traverses and pick up speed while they just mosey their way through it. but i do enjoy dicking around on the ground and the chill vibe i have when i'm on one. not to mention i have 3 fewer components to worry about.

meh, i'm 50/50.
 
#116 ·
meh, i'm 50/50.
As someone who can also ski or board I ended up moving to the snowboard full time after my first powder day riding. My friends with fatty skis keep trying to convince me it's fun to bounce up and down, but they obviously have no idea what they're missing.

I came into the sports later in life after the major skier vs snowboarder movement had more or less come to a close. I learned on a mountain where people couldn't care less what you were riding as long as you were having fun.

I've really only seen the "old wars" since moving to SLC, and frankly I'm convinced it is just because they still have Alta/Deer Valley. It's a lot harder to sit around being elitest about things when you are forced to accept another group of people. I figure that's the big problem for Snowolf and the backcountry. These people are having to deal with splitboarders for the first time in any sort of number. Especially since splitboard tech continues to get better.
 
#117 ·
hah, these old wars. for some reason it reminds me of that family guy episode where peter ends up working for a cigarette company and the congressman's all like, "cigarettes killed my father! ...and raped my mother."

i don't know why, but replace cigarettes with snowboards. kind of works. right? RIGHT??!:blink:
 
#118 ·
i don't know why, but replace cigarettes with snowboards. kind of works. right? RIGHT??!:blink:
Ignoring that cigarettes are actually dangerous that's a pretty spot on analogy. There is basically zero reason any skier should get all bent out of shape about a snowboarder. They have to make stuff up to get enraged about. There is literally nothing a snowboarder could potentially do wrong that a person on skis couldn't do just as easily.
 
#119 ·
Truly! This is old news but some people may have not seen it so I will repost. Listen to the comments, tone and attutde here. I may be going out on a limbe here but I would bet that if you did this same survey and asked boarders about kicking skiers off of a mountain, you would get very little support. Most boarders would probably answer that skiers should be allowed because they have a right to shred too. I think there is just a huge difference in attitude and this guy in the video brings up a huge point. The ski area in on USFS land. That is public land open to all Americans and I don`t think that any permit holder should have the right to discriminate like they do. My taxes pay the budget for the US Dept. of Agriculture that rund the USFS and as a result, I have a right to use the public land I pay to help maintain.

isn't there something people can do about that, then? btw, saw your comments on that facebook page. hilarious in a way.
 
#121 ·
Its crazy, they hate us, just because we have one plank beneath our feet, and not two. Honestly, I've always found snowboarding more fun, I get to mess around more on a board, and for me, that means being me, goofing around on the hill while my friends who ski are like, "Shit son! How'd you do dat, with da jazz an' stuff!" To put it in the words of one of them. Some ask me if it's hard, I say, "Nah, once you get the hang of it." See, though, one thing I don't do is those black diamond hills, straight, 45+ degree grade, and sometimes narrow as I am thin. Trust me, I'm a twig. They don't understand chatter, or why I love the park so much. Speaking of the park, skis don't belong there. Sure, you can do that stuff, but seriously, those rails are narrow for a reason. They also take the longest time to get in and out of the park, geez, some just don't get it that when you say, "DROPPING" as loud as humanly possible, that they need to MOVE!
 
#122 ·
I have a few skiier friends who dislike snowboarders on the basis they're beginner skiiers and have been bowled by reckless snowboarders bombing green runs. Which sucks, but by the same token I had skiers run over the top of of my board when I was learning on greens and stuff, so I think that one cuts both ways.

The only real gripe I've heard from other snowboarders about skiiers (which I share) is the way they mogul a lot of black runs. But equally, lack of new snow, and lack of grooming contribute to that. Not much can be done about it, to be honest. Most boarders are pretty live-and-let-live, I think. I certainly try to be.

But you know what? I've never had any boarders ding my board in the lift line, whereas plenty of skiiers have. Never had any boarders completely cut me off getting off the chair, except when they've fallen over (and let's be honest, we've all done that at some time or other). Always find it a lot easier to strike up a conversation with fellow boarders on the lift - some skiiers are friendly, but in general more boarders are friendly. And there's some skiiers who literally EXUDE contempt for boarders, whereas most boarders seem to be pretty live-and-let-live.

Just share the mountain, and don't be a douchebag. It's what I try to do.
 
#127 ·
I Used to ski too...about 20 years ago. No need to drag on steep powder when you're flying. Hey go back to mid 80 ski design, you don't want to loose your purity using snowboard profile, base and sidecut technology do you? Muahahhahahahhaha... Really.. Go back on 2.5 meters Rossignols
 
#129 ·
"I’ve tried snowboarding. I actually liked it. When the snow is soft, maybe even a little heavy, a wide snowboard stays on top, troweling the snow like it’s putty. But then I caught my downhill edge on a cat track, flopped onto my stomach and threw up my lunch. That was the end of my short snowboarding career."


And he writes about it too! :laugh: What an ass. Persistent uh? One fall and gives up.
 
#130 ·
I have really had my fill of this bullshit elitist attitude from douchebag skiers who just seem to insist on keeping this anti snowboarding attitude alive. I have been all for live and let live but skiers are once again turning up the hate and I am through with it. I am getting to the point where I just dislike skiers and until they prove otherwise, I assume they are just elitist douchebags who think their shit doesn't stink and I view them as assholes.

Now, having said that, I will treat them civil and give them the opportunity to prove to me that they are decent people but I no longer just freely give them the benefit of the doubt. Add backcountry to the mix or Telle and you have a whole new level of douchebaggery. I have never encountered such pricks and douchebags as I have in the AT and Telle community. These people have an ungodly hollier than thou attitude and nine out of ten of them need to die in avalanches.

Here is just an example of this bullshit from skiers and frankly, I am sick of it:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Splitboarding-is-NOT-the-Answer/446838962063314?fref=ts

The Trouble With Snowboarding | Kim Kircher

Add Pacific Northwest to the mix and you add another layer still to the douchebaggery. This sanctimonious woman is a ski patroller at Crystal in Washington. She is a typical California transplant who moves up here, buys a Subaru, joins earth first and proceeds to tell the locals how they are doing everything wrong and that in California they do it better. She goes on at length making broad assumptions about snowboarding and snowboards while never actually having snowboarded. I find this so typical of the skier asshole who is quick to voice opinions based on on nothing. I also find an astonishing level of douchebaggery in the Pacific Northwest. Having grown up in Montana, it has been my experience that 99% of it is from these fucking Californians moving up here in droves. They leave California because they are sick of the bullshit, then try to turn Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana into California. This woman is a shining example of what is wrong with the Pacific Northwest and nowhere does this come out more than in PNW backcountry skiers.
Hey...not all Californians are supreme douchebags! :unsure:
 
#131 ·
Yeah there are really cool people living in California, but sadly the duechebags have given you all a bad name...:dunno:
It's like people that move to Alberta and bitch about the oil industry and become vegans... :blink: Like fuck off back to BC already!!!

The one thing I'll give Newfies is that they know how to live it up in AB. They buy big trucks, quads, sleds, etc. and just have a good time.

Anyway, you can all come to the Canadian Rockies and board if the other hills are full of douchebags. There's very limited douchbaggery here. In fact considering most of the hills are run by Aussies, Kiwis, and Brits looking for a good time, the atmosphere is usually party like most of the time on the hills. The lifties play music at the bottom, could be anything, they joke around, have fun. Good vibes here. :yahoo:
 
#137 ·
Anyway, you can all come to the Canadian Rockies and board if the other hills are full of douchebags. There's very limited douchbaggery here. In fact considering most of the hills are run by Aussies, Kiwis, and Brits looking for a good time, the atmosphere is usually party like most of the time on the hills. The lifties play music at the bottom, could be anything, they joke around, have fun. Good vibes here. :yahoo:
Dude, I hope to take you up on that offer someday haha. Damn bigass ocean between our 2 continents.

Usually my friends and me are just joking about when we're talking about skiers. We usually go stuff like 'skiïng is for pussies' and all that sorta stuff, but we don't really mean it. One of the guys in our friend group is a skier and we(or atleast I) don't mind it at all. It goes the same for him, he doesn't have a problem with snowboarders. I'm just trying to have fun.

I don't know if this attitude is more common in the US/Canada then it is in Europe, but it seems to be. Had it happen one time in France where some dude just kept bumping up against my board while we we're standing in line for the lift. As far as I remember he was a boarder aswell, but it was still so fuckin annoying.

In any case, after I saw that Alta video, I just wanted to ultra-super-uberfacepalm myself. Sooo much elitist pricks in that video.
 
#132 ·
And by the way is not that boarding is in decline..is that we are (and have been for the past 5 years) IN A RECESSION! My son loves it, but he's still using my old gear. He'll get a board this summer...during the 70% off sales. I can't afford a new set of gear for him every season...he grows too fast. and I'm fine with my gear.
 
#134 ·
I went and looked at the report everyone is citing (http://www.nsaa.org/media/59037/The-Future-of-Snowboarding.pdf), and it does show some stagnation. The problem is people like Kim Kircher are misinterpreting the data. There is no comparison to skiing, with the exception of average days of participation. In this case it shows a significant and sharp drop for snowboarders from about 8 days to more like 6 days. What's funny about that is skiers are under 6 days for the last decade and some change.

The problem for Kircher, and some of these newspaper articles that are floating around based on the above report, is they are committing a Type 1 statistical error. The report does not imply that people are leaving snowboarding for skiing, or that skiing is somehow growing at a greater rate. In fact, what the report mostly tells me is that women are not making it past the beginner level, and the main male demographic that makes up snowboarding is aging.

Kircher and her ilk use that to imply that the ladies are becoming skiers. The report clearly shows, and states, that this is anecdotal at best and unsupported by their own data. It states that only 3% of the interviewed skiers (both male and female) indicated that they snowboarded before switching to skiing (pg. 29). That's insignificant.

They use the next part as the meat of their argument. That the percent of children 14 and younger who are snowboarders declined from 42% (the high in 2003/04) to a new low of 34% (in 2011/12). The problem is we cannot say that the 8% change is from kids leaving snowboarding for skiing. The data does not tell us that, and the only way to know would be to make a comparison to the total number of participants. I would venture it's a more bleak outlook in that the 8% change probably has more to do with people NOT engaging in snow sports period rather than shifting from one side of the sport to another.

So, while this report does have some grim numbers the assumptions people are making from it are simply not supported at this time. It's tenuous at best to suggest that snowboarding is dying and therefore skiing must be thriving/growing. Kircher's bigger issue is in her original article she suggests that maybe we let snowboarding die because she assumes those riders are transitioning to other parts of the sport. If she had spent more time actually reading the article she would realize two things: 1) That is a terrible idea and 2) Her assumption is probably not correct. The snowboarding decline is costing 3 million visits per year, meaning the decline in snowboarding visits is not being made up by a reciprocal increase in ski visitations. If it was a merely a transition we wouldn't be seeing a report from The National Ski Areas Association discussing the need to find solutions that will re-energize the snowboard industry.
 
#133 · (Edited)
...I may be going out on a limb here but I would bet that if you did this same survey and asked boarders about kicking skiers off of a mountain, you would get very little support. Most boarders would probably answer that skiers should be allowed because they have a right to shred too. I think there is just a huge difference in attitude and this guy in the video brings up a huge point. The ski area is on USFS land. That is public land open to all Americans and I don`t think that any permit holder should have the right to discriminate like they do. My taxes pay the budget for the US Dept. of Agriculture that runs the USFS and as a result, I have a right to use the public land I pay to help maintain.
Yeah, stupid elitist skiers. Don't get me wrong, I've met douchey skiers AND snowboarders, but skiers generally have more hate and contempt towards us. I've also met some very cool skiers and boarders that are easy to get along with and open-minded. The comments on Youtube have stuff about Boarder-only resorts, but quite honestly I think that's stupid. The resort wouldn't get enough cash and I'm pretty sure there are more skiers in the world than snowboarders. But that doesn't make skiing better at all.

Thanks, here is my latest comment on that FB page regarding the USF banning splitboards:



As for Alta, I believe that the USFS is unwilling to put forth any effort with a court battle. If enough snowboarders were to care and put forth the money for high profile attorneys and launch a court case, then they might tell Alta that they have to allow snowboarders as part of their permit to operate on public land. Until that happens, I don`t think the USFS which is underfunded as it is, will put forth the effort. Most snowboarders just aren't going to care enough about a shithole like Alta to care when there are so many great option in the Wasatch.
I agree, Alta is on public land and can't discriminate, but I don't give a f*ck about Alta anyway. Right next to it there's Snowbird, Solitude/Brighton, Powder Mountain, the list goes on and on. No one cares about Alta/Deer Valley (at least here). Let them stay that way so all the stupid freaking skiers can stay off our mountains.

Oh and Kim Kircher: "I’ve tried snowboarding. I actually liked it. When the snow is soft, maybe even a little heavy, a wide snowboard stays on top, troweling the snow like it’s putty. But then I caught my downhill edge on a cat track, flopped onto my stomach and threw up my lunch. That was the end of my short snowboarding career."

All I can say is, what a p**sy. We need a :shakingmyhead: or a :facepalm: emoticon...
 
#135 ·
Almost killed a little girl in pink today. She bolted out of some trees going straight across a groomer. It was my final run so I was just ripping down one of the black groomers. As soon as I seen her in my sight I slammed on the breaks and just missed her, she screamed and fell down out of fear but I never touched her. The giant wall of snow I kicked up must of made her cry maybe:dunno:. I bet I was going 55+ mph. Scared the fuck out of me.

I sat down to calm her down and make sure she was ok. I got her smiling and helped her get her poles. I was getting ready to take off when angry skier dad and mom rolled up.. They threatened to beat me up, call ski patrol and what not.. SMFH. The kid is fine and it was her fault to start with! I just brushed it off and bolted down the hill, they'd never catch me anyway.

Fuck all you delusional parents out there! Atleast the kid was friendly, she was even apologetic after I told her to look uphill in those kind of spots next time. I'm guessing she was 8-10 years old.
 
#138 ·
Harsh!

I like it. Thinking about what happened to this guy, these people are like the idiots who try to race the train across the tracks in their car and then try to sue the railroad because the train couldnt stop and ran over their car...Can we please get the world`s top scientists together to create a terminal virus that genetically tagets stupid people? The planet cannot sustain 7 Billion; a virus like this would probably wipe out about 6 billion....:thumbsup:
Please no, I will be gone then aswell! I just do waaay too many stupid things. And all of those things usually involve me getting fucked up, not other people. xD
 
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