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Old 03-20-2012, 12:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well for starters, Beaver Creek the way it is laid out has never been a huge hotbed for crime. Secondly, instructors are always leaving boards unattended for various reasons, locking it every day every time you leave your board is a pain in the arse - especially when you are on somebody else's time. This person knew what they were stealing, a thin wire lock probably wouldn't have been that much of a detterent.

Should he have left it in better view on the busiest weekend of the year? probably. Does that give a scumbag the right to steal it? Definitely not.

Like I said, the board meant a lot to him, and there aren't many of these things around, if you see anything, let me know.
How much pain in the arse was it to recover stolen board though? Well, maybe not much in your case as you lucked out this time by running into said thief.

While a thin wire lock is not durable enough to protect the board from a determined thief, it is usually enough as there are tons of other unlocked boards around. Not having any lock makes it that much easier. Also, who says you have to use a thin wire lock? Use the biggest chain if you want. Just leave the chain locked at the rack and use it when needed rather than carrying it the whole time.

A lock does not take much time to use at all. Not enough for any student to care I would assume unless they are a supremely spoiled brat who demands every single second of your time.

Sorry, I always have to be the Debbie downer with these stolen board cases. Just look at this very forums. So many people losing their boards because they left it unprotected and out-of-sight even for a moment. How many cases do you hear from people that even used thin wire locks posting about stolen boards?

Yes, anyone who steals is a flaming pile of raccoon poo. But I have to ask you guys, why make it that much easier for that poo to steal your setup, especially one that is yet-to-be released? At the very least, leave it propped up by a window even if you aren't sitting at the table behind that window.

PS, very happy that your bud got the board back. But hopefully he takes more precautions to secure that board now.
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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2 weeks ago I was in the Dusty Boot (pub at Beaver Creek) grabbing a happy hour snack and saw a Cobra just sitting outside on the railing... I was thinking whoever got that precious pre-production ride is taking a bit of a risk just leaving it outside a bar ESPECIALLY at the end of the day (did I mention it was spring break?) when all someone has to do is grab it and hop on a bus with a huge crowd of people. Anyways, I didn't have my lock that day and put my board right next to it, thinking that if someone wanted to steal a board that bad, they would take the Cobra over my T. Rice...

Congrats on finding it though. Cashing in some major karma points for sure!

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Old 03-20-2012, 01:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I started searching the internets for a Cobra for sale before I read the whole thread.

Anyway, glad the dude got it back. He really lucked out.
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:27 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Yea give us more details or make some up!
Yeah seriously man, what did the cops do? Did the kid get arrested? How did you prove to the cops that the board was your buddies and not the thief's? What did this kid look like and where does he live? We need more details man!
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:48 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Yeah seriously man, what did the cops do? Did the kid get arrested? How did you prove to the cops that the board was your buddies and not the thief's? What did this kid look like and where does he live? We need more details man!

I'm assuming he gave them the serial number since he posted it in this thread.
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Yeah the kid got arrested, his initial story was that he bought it from someone. A couple of hours at the station and some video surveillance evidence later and he finally admitted to stealing it. The guy was clearly an idiot, who takes a 1 of a kind snowboard then rides it at the same mountain.

As far as beatings go, I have to be careful - im only a resident and any issues with police does not look good when I come to renew that residency. I thought it better to use my noggin a bit and let the authorities deal with it. As it stands he is in pretty deep shit, if I had kicked his ass and taken the board, he probably could have used that against me, plus we would never have proven he stole it.

Vail resorts public safety were involved in the bust, so you can be pretty sure that he will be homeless and jobless in the very near future. I haven't seen the guy around the beav all season, so he must work at vail - someone mentioned they had seen him working at two elk.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:17 PM   #27 (permalink)
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This is why I have a wire lock in my pants as part of my standard on mountain kit. Nobody is going to steal a board or skis that are locked. It's too risky. "Why are you using those wire cutters to get that board? Why are you taking the bindings off of that board while it's still locked" It's common sense and not worth the risk.

On the other hand, there are many $500 boards lying around begging to be stolen that aren't locked. Take 1 minute to lock your gear and a mountain thief will never even think about taking your board.
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This is why I have a wire lock in my pants as part of my standard on mountain kit. Nobody is going to steal a board or skis that are locked. It's too risky. "Why are you using those wire cutters to get that board? Why are you taking the bindings off of that board while it's still locked" It's common sense and not worth the risk.

On the other hand, there are many $500 boards lying around begging to be stolen that aren't locked. Take 1 minute to lock your gear and a mountain thief will never even think about taking your board.
Wouldn't it be easy to give one of those wire locks a solid yank and have it bust loose?

I only ask because after this thread we bought a couple, but they seem so weak. I actually triple wrapped my binding and rack in an effort to give less 'yanking' leverage...
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Wouldn't it be easy to give one of those wire locks a solid yank and have it bust loose?

I only ask because after this thread we bought a couple, but they seem so weak. I actually triple wrapped my binding and rack in an effort to give less 'yanking' leverage...
It shouldn't if it's worthy of being called a lock. If you're worried, test it out yourself. They are only $15-$30 to begin with. I wouldn't give it a good yank with your hands even if you're wearing gloves. Don't give yourself a nasty cut or lose a finger.

Finally, you still have the deterrence of the lock itself. Why want when I can just take the board right next to it and walk out like it's mine?
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Wouldn't it be easy to give one of those wire locks a solid yank and have it bust loose?

I only ask because after this thread we bought a couple, but they seem so weak. I actually triple wrapped my binding and rack in an effort to give less 'yanking' leverage...
Its not a good deterrent, its just a deterrent, which works 1000% better then the non-deterrent unlocked $800 setup right next to it. As has been said many times before, in most cases board thieves are opportunistic petty criminals. If the mob wanted your board, they would take it.
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