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Old 03-15-2012, 05:23 PM   #31 (permalink)
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holy fuck is right.
+1. Wow. RIP to the guy in the truck. One just never knows when your last day is. I hope she/he told his close ones he loves them before getting in his truck.

That's the one thing I've always took seriously. I always tell my wife and daughter I love them before I leave for work each morning.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:48 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I used to test ride for several motorcycle companies & did some instructing as well. I always told students & still tell friends that if you choose to get on 2 wheels, consider yourself invisible & be prepared to always be aware of your surroundings. Sadly the vast majority of people are so wrapped up in checking their twitter, Facebook & email while texting, talking, drinking coffee & an energy drink while stuffing their face in the car while they run late to an appointment or work that they can't be bothered with paying attention to the road & everyone sharing it with them. In the event I every have the power to make a change, more frequent driving tests & instruction will be a requirement

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Old 03-15-2012, 06:07 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Saturn is the safest car out there....not now though. I obviously wasn't saying it was gonna save me from a semi. For the most part every car is gonna fair the same. And people have the same issue with motorcycles Snowwolf. The more I drive the angrier I get. People are so dumb driving.
Uhhhhh Saturn? I'm the generalizing king, but saying that an entire brand is the safest car out there is even too much of a generalization for me!!! There are many that would dispute your claim. Volvo had great crash test ratings for a while, the late 90's Toyota tercel was another great one. Not sure if it's even possible to say one particular model is the "safest" due to all the different variables associated with a car crash. Best method of protection? Not getting into the accident in the first place!

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Man I know you are right. people in cars are total douche bags to motorcycles.....
Yup, had an FZ6 and an R1 for a while. Did 18,000 km on the FZ6 first year I had it and realized that I was on my own out there. I rode in downtown Toronto on occasion, but whenever I could I'd be out in the country hours away from civilization. The best riding was up near Algonquin park on an old logging road that they had paved about 10 years before. It started in the middle of nowhere, and went nowhere, so it was great! I really do miss my bikes...
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:14 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Pretty sure that was a Toytota Tacoma with a camper shell. That's what all the shrapnel is from...the shell and whatever was in the back of the truck. Not saying it wasn't a brutal wreck, and anyone in the truck (especially the passenger side) was probably pretty messed up, but the whole vehicle didn't disintegrate.
ya i know a lot about tacomas, and i am 99% sure that was not a tacoma, also that was not just the camper shell exploding. it was the entire vehicle. that thing was in 10000 pieces and the drivers area was hit square on. the odds of surviving are slim to none. it looks like the only thing they did wrong was attempt to break when they hit a patch of ice/snow (which made them loose control and slide around the first time) then over correct and steer and slide into the other lane after bouncing off the van. really a horrible accident and it just shows how dangerous roads can get in bad weather and how quickly it can turn fatal


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but yes, people are stupid when it comes to driving, and dont think about anything. it scares me every time i pass a semi on the right. all im thinking is oh god i hope im not in the blind spot, dont try to merge. i always speed up just so im not next to the thing. nobody respects semis. everyone just thinks they are big, rolling road blocks, and have no idea what it will do to you if you get in an accident. nobody sees bikes either. i was driving in stop and go traffic on the highway and almost rear ended a guy on a bike, and i ride motorcycles! I looked down at the radio, then looked up and the guy on the bike blended in with the car in front of him i didnt even really see him till i was close and realized i better stop sooner then i was planning. that shook me up quite a bit and felt so bad for the guy that i got pretty close.
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Uhhhhh Saturn? I'm the generalizing king, but saying that an entire brand is the safest car out there is even too much of a generalization for me!!! There are many that would dispute your claim. Volvo had great crash test ratings for a while, the late 90's Toyota tercel was another great one. Not sure if it's even possible to say one particular model is the "safest" due to all the different variables associated with a car crash. Best method of protection? Not getting into the accident in the first place!



Yup, had an FZ6 and an R1 for a while. Did 18,000 km on the FZ6 first year I had it and realized that I was on my own out there. I rode in downtown Toronto on occasion, but whenever I could I'd be out in the country hours away from civilization. The best riding was up near Algonquin park on an old logging road that they had paved about 10 years before. It started in the middle of nowhere, and went nowhere, so it was great! I really do miss my bikes...
Them and Toyota are the two safest car companies. That's partly to why Saturn went out of business. They put too much into the car and then had to sell it for what it was worth and people don't like paying for what they get. I know what you mean though. There is no way to say for sure. I do know the company as a whole has, I believe, more safety awards for their cars than anyone else. Toyota has probably passed them now. I'm not gonna go into detail, point being, they're damn safe.
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holy fucking shit this guy was serious with his saturn crap i thought it was a joke at first
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:45 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I'm going to stick with my land cruiser for safeness, that and not driving in front of a semi....saturn haha
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I'm going to stick with my land cruiser for safeness, that and not driving in front of a semi....saturn haha
im going to cover my tacoma in plate bumpers and beefy sliders, i dont care how great your saturn's crash ratings are, im sure they didnt test it against a 600 pound metal wedge attached to a truck. it would be no match for a semi, but i wouldnt need to worry about normal cars on the road


(not my truck, but what it would look like with bumper)
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as with everything in a mans life, its all about the size haha
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saw this vid on another car forum, and yeah, most agree that activated traction control could have possibly saved this mans life.
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