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Old 04-05-2012, 03:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That's pretty scary. I was riding that area 2 weeks ago by myself, like no one around me, i sat and had lunch for 20 minutes and i saw 2 people way off in the distance during that whole time.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Avalung should be at the ready (out, high and close enough that you can easily bite it) or in your mouth already. Of course, there are no guarantees - it can be knocked out in the fall...

There is long vid of a person falling in a tree well and being able to use cell phone to call wife, who then alerted patrol. He was rescued, but again, there are no guarantees that you'd be able to use your cell phone.

Tree pow is so enticing, yet can turn so deadly
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Being able to use a cell in a tree well submersion is the exception not the rule. A strategically placed whistle can help, but remember, you are in a hole, the sound is not going to carry all that far. An Avalung is by far your best bet. With an Avalung you are probably not going to suffocate, this is not an avalanche burial. There should be plenty of air. You'll probably freeze, dehydrate, starve to death before you run out of air. Hopefully it won't take that long for ski patrol to come locate you. For any of you that have any illusions as to what it means to be trapped in a tree well check out this video.



That dude is fucked. The rescue was not performed all that well, but it was performed. No doubt if his buddies were not there, he'd be dead.
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:13 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hah, I've seen this video (probably on TAY) - the 'narrator' has his head stuck in his a$$, can't believe he tried to pass this as an example of excellence and is using it as an ad for his consulting business! Talking about communication skills, leadership - either a total idiot or a spin-master wanna-be
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:50 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The intent of this video is to demonstrate and educate people on the dangers of tree wells. NOT a demonstration on HOW to rescue someone from a tree well. If you choose to venture into the back country seek professional instruction and guidance
From the description.
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So now tell me why he shows the danger but don't show how to rescue properly, when he had the perfect opportunity? Right, because what he did, how he communicated, and the leadership exemplified, etc. all SUCK. Tree well dude sure got lucky to be saved despite all the incompetence.

I also think the caveat was added later, after people who know better told the narrator he's an idiot.

Anyway, you are more than welcome to ride with this douche, and use him to train you to be a good leader and communicator. Hopefully, by now he has learned at least how to effectively rescue people from tree wells... I, on the other hand, prefer to stay away from the likes of him
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Somebody thinks they're perfect.....
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That rescue was far from perfect, no doubt, but they did in fact rescue him. That is the goal.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ya, all I'm saying is people make mistakes. Doesn't mean they are incompetent and certainly doesn't mean he's an asshole or douchebag. I'm sure we all don't turn into superman in these situations.
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I am certainly not perfect at all, far from it.

This guy has the arrogance to ask "Are you prepared, do you have the skills, etc." while he OBVIOUSLY lacks both skills and knowledge. He is NOT a good leader, he was incompetent but doesn't admit it. It's mind-boggling to me that he would show this and try to promote his company, taking people's money. This makes him a douchebag - in my opinion.
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