USA = no artificial surface snowboarding - Snowboarding Forum

metoo · 04-05-2012, 07:55 PM

...So why not?! It's fairly popular in Europe. Okay, there is a university with a small park. New Jersey will have an indoor slope/park soon, but that's just two places (one which isn't open yet)in this huge country with a lot of wealthy developers. I would think it would be great business during the off-season. With the right business plan, I would think it would even do well in a place where you could never snowboard on real snow. What am I missing here?

Ttam · 04-05-2012, 07:59 PM

I snowboard 6 months out of the year on real snow. Thats enough for me.

ThunderChunky · 04-05-2012, 08:04 PM

Up near Niagara falls has one. Think it got shut down though. Red Bull butter cup used to be there.

slyder · 04-05-2012, 08:24 PM

I thought about this for our area, be it snow or turf. I just think that the kids, speaking from experience, have way to many other sports options. Tons of baseball, football, soccer etc. The months without snow are filled up fast and in todays economy I don't know how someone could cover operating costs let alone a profit.

Frankyis4 · 04-05-2012, 08:48 PM

The places that have space for a good one wouldn't get enough business and the places where I think it would flourish don't have enough space because there is to much development.

**HoboMaster** · 04-05-2012, 09:07 PM

Probably because we have plenty of real mountains, and during the offseason people enjoy doing offseason activities. Despite a huge snowpack (17 feet at the top...) and great terrain, my mountain shuts down this weekend simply because crowds die off in anticipation of Spring. After Sunday I will be ready to put the snowboard away and go hiking... Until October when I get antsy again.

david_z · 04-05-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by slyder

I thought about this for our area, be it snow or turf. I just think that the kids, speaking from experience, have way to many other sports options. Tons of baseball, football, soccer etc. The months without snow are filled up fast and in todays economy I don't know how someone could cover operating costs let alone a profit.

This.

For the most part, the mountains & hills in the US get ample snowfall for 3-5 months each year.

The places that don't get snow, generally speaking there just isn't enough demand to support a dryslope/fridge.

Even at a modest $3M investment at $30 per head you'd need to bring in ~60 people per day, 365 days per year, to break even and that would still take 5 years!!!

And that doesn't account for things like taxes, insurance, wages for your employees, utility bills, maintenance, etc.

oefdevilvet · 04-05-2012, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david_z

This.

For the most part, the mountains & hills in the US get ample snowfall for 3-5 months each year.

The places that don't get snow, generally speaking there just isn't enough demand to support a dryslope/fridge.

Even at a modest $3M investment at $30 per head you'd need to bring in ~60 people per day, 365 days per year, to break even and that would still take 5 years!!!

And that doesn't account for things like taxes, insurance, wages for your employees, utility bills, maintenance, etc.

Kinda hard to argue that logic.

Jason · 04-05-2012, 10:19 PM

I'm 1 hour from the place being built in NJ and don't think I would go. Maybe once just before the season starts to get my legs under me.

Jason · 04-05-2012, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david_z

This.

For the most part, the mountains & hills in the US get ample snowfall for 3-5 months each year.

The places that don't get snow, generally speaking there just isn't enough demand to support a dryslope/fridge.

Even at a modest $3M investment at $30 per head you'd need to bring in ~60 people per day, 365 days per year, to break even and that would still take 5 years!!!

And that doesn't account for things like taxes, insurance, wages for your employees, utility bills, maintenance, etc.

The one positive thing about the NJ place is it could get a lot of people. ~20 million people in metropolitan NY, plus you could get tourist from NYC.

04-05-2012, 07:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
metoo Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 43	USA = no artificial surface snowboarding ...So why not?! It's fairly popular in Europe. Okay, there is a university with a small park. New Jersey will have an indoor slope/park soon, but that's just two places (one which isn't open yet)in this huge country with a lot of wealthy developers. I would think it would be great business during the off-season. With the right business plan, I would think it would even do well in a place where you could never snowboard on real snow. What am I missing here?

04-05-2012, 07:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ttam Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Big Bear Posts: 399	I snowboard 6 months out of the year on real snow. Thats enough for me. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/Artayes

04-05-2012, 08:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
slyder Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Milwaukee Suburbs Posts: 1,929	I thought about this for our area, be it snow or turf. I just think that the kids, speaking from experience, have way to many other sports options. Tons of baseball, football, soccer etc. The months without snow are filled up fast and in todays economy I don't know how someone could cover operating costs let alone a profit. __________________ Thanks -Slyder

04-05-2012, 09:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
HoboMaster Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sandpoint / Moscow, ID Posts: 2,301	Probably because we have plenty of real mountains, and during the offseason people enjoy doing offseason activities. Despite a huge snowpack (17 feet at the top...) and great terrain, my mountain shuts down this weekend simply because crowds die off in anticipation of Spring. After Sunday I will be ready to put the snowboard away and go hiking... Until October when I get antsy again. __________________ PowderHound and TreeNinja

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04-05-2012, 08:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Frankyis4 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 80	The places that have space for a good one wouldn't get enough business and the places where I think it would flourish don't have enough space because there is to much development.

04-05-2012, 10:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jason Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 97	I'm 1 hour from the place being built in NJ and don't think I would go. Maybe once just before the season starts to get my legs under me.