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Old 04-30-2012, 10:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This past weekend was my first time riding in really sticky snow and ended up catching a heelside edge at high speed. The friction grab from the snow was a new experience to say the least. I had picked up some of the obj black magic graphite wax thinking it would help reduce the friction and it did. Sadly even hot waxed on it only lasted a few runs. Anyone have any thoughts on what to wax with for these conditions? Would the obj black magic summer slush last any longer?

Someone mentioned applying rain-x after waxing. The rain-x sounds odd and I'd be willing to give it a try, but have concerns about what it will do to my base. Maybe I just need to turn one of my boards in to a summer board and get a coarse base grind.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just another condition to get used to. I really don't change waxes at all on any of our boards. Same shit all year long... Once you get used to the nuances of the snow you will be fine.....

I have heard people say they love the black magic graphite though......
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Just another condition to get used to. I really don't change waxes at all on any of our boards. Same shit all year long... Once you get used to the nuances of the snow you will be fine.....
+1, I could be riding nice snow on the upper mountain and slush on the lower, -20 deg C one day and +5 the next. So I use the same wax all year round and just learn to feel out the snow under me.

The GF hates spring snow so I've had to explain to her about spring boarding being more about enjoying the sun and the beer and just having some lazy turns on the snow. Not setting any speed records in the spring!
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The GF hates spring snow so I've had to explain to her about spring boarding being more about enjoying the sun and the beer and just having some lazy turns on the snow. Not setting any speed records in the spring!

Hates spring boarding? Park laps and groomers, beers and bong hits. Ok I am more of a cocktail kinda gal but what is not to like!?!?!

You need to get that poor girl off that trad cambered deck and get her something fun to ride

i kid. seriously
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Its just how it is until the snow goes through a few freeze/thaw cycles. We have had super sticky snow lately because its been very warm and hasnt been freezing at night. The snow is damn near unridable outside the park where they are salting and raking throughout the day.
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Hates spring boarding? Park laps and groomers, beers and bong hits. Ok I am more of a cocktail kinda gal but what is not to like!?!?!

You need to get that poor girl off that trad cambered deck and get her something fun to ride

i kid. seriously
Lol she doesn't like getting wet... Sometimes I have to pull her kicking and screaming out to do fun things, and even when she's having fun she still pretends to be mad at me! I think I'm better off with the single life! lol
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Sticky was the weather here in March. There's spring corn, which can be fast enough if you wax graphite and have a good structure in your base. You're trying to beat surface tension in the water. However, our March saw two straight weeks of 70+ degree weather and no amount of waxing, structuring and tuning could get speed. It was simply riding on water. You'd literally be fighting going over the nose of the board in some spots, the deceleration was so strong.
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There is really only so much you can do. Until the snow really corns up it will feel like glue. The "stickiness" is caused by surface tension of the water layer under your base and spring snow has a very high water content. Like Qball, I ride on Mt. Hood year round and our snow is SUPER wet from being so close to the Pacific.

Some things that help ( a little ):

Structured base: looks like corduroy to help channel water longitudinally under your board.

Wax warm: this helps and the OBJ graphite helps mainly with spring dirty snow and reducing static cling to the snow which believe it or not happens.

Ride your edges: Sticky snow is a definite time when riding on edge is faster than flat based.

Use leaper turns: When switching edges, try not to flat base which will grab you. Pop up off of one edge and land on your new edge so you don't expose your full base to the snow.

Ride tail heavy: Just like deep powder, sticky snow will throw you over the handle bars if you get forward.

Ride early: Try to get first chair before the sun starts beating down and baking the snow. Mid day will be brutal. As late afternoon hits things generally get better.

Ride in the shade: You will notice a huge difference in the shade. Try to ride on the edges of runs where you may have tree shadows. Be ready though for the slamming of the brakes sensation when leaving the shadows!

Ride a little defensively to avoid getting bucked and when it gets too bad, don't be afraid to say fuck it and go fishing instead!
All of this solid advice. I also learned from Snowolf that you can buy pure fluoro wipes. Wiping your base down with these will also help. Of course, the help only lasts for a few runs. But hey, even a little help is better than no help!
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Another one I heard about last night is saucer wax. A lot of our ski team uses it apparently .
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Now if only we could make the boxes not stick. Oh how I love going full speed at a box and barely making it off the end.
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