Supporting local shops vs buying online. - Page 3 - Snowboarding Forum

linvillegorge · 08-08-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtonAvenger

You know why your local shop is a douche to you? Probably because you've never been there and they can tell you're "just browsing" is more of "just trying on to go home and buy on the Internet". Nothing worse than talking to someone for an hour or two figuring they're going to buy the stuff they're trying on, going through a whole boot fit because their feet are fucked up, and having them walk out the door to buy online. If you're going to do it at least be up front so they don't waste their time with you.

I definitely understand where you're coming from with this comment and largely you're correct, however in this situation you're dead wrong.

Boone Mountain Sports was the title sponsor of the Evergreen Winter Festival. The owner was a complete ass, tore down his display before the agreed upon time, then dipped out without paying his sponsorship fee. He was able to run a booth, selling merchandise AND got the publicity of being the title sponsor and did all that without paying a dime. Now, a lot of that blame falls on the event for not getting the money up front, but still, he shafted them and that's fucked up. I'll never spend a dime in that shop again.

I just don't like the owners of Hills and Rails. It's that simple. That's a personal thing. I've never walked in the place.

I definitely do my fair share of local shopping. Hell, I'm pretty sure that every pair of sunglasses and every pair of goggles aside from my Von Zipper Fishbowls that I've bought in the last ten years came from Sun Logic up in Breckenridge. That joint has better pricing than online dealers during the summer offseason.

BurtonAvenger · 08-08-2012, 02:13 PM

Are you taking it personal cause that was a general statement not directed at anyone.

Not down with Jaime eh?

linvillegorge · 08-08-2012, 02:17 PM

Nah, definitely not taking it personal. Just clarifying my position.

Personally, no not really.

I have my reasons and they're business related. Nothing terrible, but I'm a scorched earth type guy. I see one shady deal or one instance where you put yourself in a bad light related to business and I'm done with you. There are simply too many other options out there. With all the competition, you simply can't afford to fuck up. Customers will go elsewhere.

snowklinger · 08-08-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by linvillegorge

Plus, the only two shops in Evergreen have both pissed me off in the past and I'd probably go piss on the smoldering ashes if they both burned to the ground. I do like the guys down at Arvada Skate and Snow and consider them to be my "local" shop. I've bought several things from them in the past.

It also depends on my need. If I break something or need something ASAP, then I'm much more willing to pay a premium to have that item that day.

Yea my corner of suburbia here has chain shops, so I'm always torn on that one, at least there are locals working there - Christy Sports, Colorado Ski n Golf (k2 bindings last year), BC Sport (NS board, they had alot in stock)in the mall.

I had a pretty unpleasant experience with the shop in Bergen park, but I still bought a board/binding setup from them...I'm wondering if theres a better "local" shop I should frequent in the Dillon - Breck area.

BurtonAvenger · 08-08-2012, 03:00 PM

Big Hit in Breck Vic, Deeds, and Chris kill it. Hell any given day you can probably find me in there slinging products for them and I don't even work there.

linvillegorge · 08-08-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by snowklinger

Yea my corner of suburbia here has chain shops, so I'm always torn on that one, at least there are locals working there - Christy Sports, Colorado Ski n Golf (k2 bindings last year), BC Sport (NS board, they had alot in stock)in the mall.

I had a pretty unpleasant experience with the shop in Bergen park, but I still bought a board/binding setup from them...I'm wondering if theres a better "local" shop I should frequent in the Dillon - Breck area.

Yep, that's Hills and Rails there in Bergen Park.

I'm sure there are great shops in the Breck area, but I'm not overly familiar with them. BA definitely would be.

I'd check out Community Skate and Snow there in old town Arvada though. Good little local shop that carries a lot of the boutique brands. NS, Smokin', Capita, Flux, etc.

snowklinger · 08-08-2012, 03:11 PM

Evergreen is a funny spot. It seems to be a mecca for people who can afford to do bad business. I swear all the places downtown were bought and paid for years ago, the owners now completely complacent.

It seems like alot of our restaurant's success comes from shitty competition and apathy from everyone else. There is a pool of useless employees that circles the unemployment drain and runs all over this town selling pills, ditch weed and kitchen management.

Heh.

linvillegorge · 08-08-2012, 03:56 PM

LOL! It's true.

I don't know much about the workings of Evergreen businesses. From where I live, I can get down to the CO Mills area quicker than I can downtown Evergreen, plus I don't have to run the cop gauntlet that is Evergreen Parkway.

The one place I did used to frequent was El Rancho because it was less than 5 minutes from my house, but they recently had a change of management and the new guys have 100% completely fucked it up.

If I had the money, I'd buy those dipshits out and start a brewery in that joint. It would make a fucking killing.

jdang307 · 08-08-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BurtonAvenger

Snowboarding is for the rich we're pricing ourselves out of existence. We've also created a culture of discounts that people expect and feel they're entitled to. Rather sad.

You know why your local shop is a douche to you? Probably because you've never been there and they can tell you're "just browsing" is more of "just trying on to go home and buy on the Internet". Nothing worse than talking to someone for an hour or two figuring they're going to buy the stuff they're trying on, going through a whole boot fit because their feet are fucked up, and having them walk out the door to buy online. If you're going to do it at least be up front so they don't waste their time with you.

Shopping on the Internet in the grand scheme of the local to global economy puts a huge dent in the local economy, I fully understand that not having a local shop you need to facilitate it and that's where Internet shopping comes in. Problem with that is The House, dogfunk, backcountry, etc. etc. are faceless shitholes. Evo, Eastern Boarder, Eternal actually are local shops. So if you are going to buy online at least buy from a shop that is local and does something for the economy.

When I buy, I like to buy from the small shops. I shop first at Emage ... which I think may be a chain? I think there are two or three of them. Evo is my second stop they have a great selection. I haven't bought from Wiredsport yet but I wouldn't hesitate as he's a fella in here.

Even if I don't have a local shop I can support someone elses

BurtonAvenger · 08-08-2012, 04:35 PM

Emage only has one location in downtown Denver that I know of, Evo while starting as online went to B&M and does a great job of supplying Seattle, and Wiredsport knows how to market to you guys, hell for the amount of support they give you they deserve your business.

And what the hell is up with Evergreen it's like it doesn't know what the fuck it is. Everyone I meet that's a "snow bro" from there falls into the group of absolutely fucking stupid.

08-08-2012, 02:13 PM	#22 (permalink)
BurtonAvenger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountains Posts: 8,050	Are you taking it personal cause that was a general statement not directed at anyone. Not down with Jaime eh? __________________ Angry Snowboarder Because someone has to call it how they see it!

08-08-2012, 02:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
linvillegorge Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Evergreen, CO Posts: 4,499	Nah, definitely not taking it personal. Just clarifying my position. Personally, no not really. I have my reasons and they're business related. Nothing terrible, but I'm a scorched earth type guy. I see one shady deal or one instance where you put yourself in a bad light related to business and I'm done with you. There are simply too many other options out there. With all the competition, you simply can't afford to fuck up. Customers will go elsewhere. __________________ "People say that marijuana smoking is going to get in the way of my career. I say to them that on the contrary, my fighting career is getting in the way of my marijuana smoking." -Nick Diaz

08-08-2012, 03:00 PM	#25 (permalink)
BurtonAvenger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountains Posts: 8,050	Big Hit in Breck Vic, Deeds, and Chris kill it. Hell any given day you can probably find me in there slinging products for them and I don't even work there. __________________ Angry Snowboarder Because someone has to call it how they see it!

08-08-2012, 03:11 PM	#27 (permalink)
snowklinger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: fuck boulder Posts: 2,823	Evergreen is a funny spot. It seems to be a mecca for people who can afford to do bad business. I swear all the places downtown were bought and paid for years ago, the owners now completely complacent. It seems like alot of our restaurant's success comes from shitty competition and apathy from everyone else. There is a pool of useless employees that circles the unemployment drain and runs all over this town selling pills, ditch weed and kitchen management. Heh. __________________ is it late october yet?

08-08-2012, 03:56 PM	#28 (permalink)
linvillegorge Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Evergreen, CO Posts: 4,499	LOL! It's true. I don't know much about the workings of Evergreen businesses. From where I live, I can get down to the CO Mills area quicker than I can downtown Evergreen, plus I don't have to run the cop gauntlet that is Evergreen Parkway. The one place I did used to frequent was El Rancho because it was less than 5 minutes from my house, but they recently had a change of management and the new guys have 100% completely fucked it up. If I had the money, I'd buy those dipshits out and start a brewery in that joint. It would make a fucking killing. __________________ "People say that marijuana smoking is going to get in the way of my career. I say to them that on the contrary, my fighting career is getting in the way of my marijuana smoking." -Nick Diaz

08-08-2012, 04:35 PM	#30 (permalink)
BurtonAvenger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountains Posts: 8,050	Emage only has one location in downtown Denver that I know of, Evo while starting as online went to B&M and does a great job of supplying Seattle, and Wiredsport knows how to market to you guys, hell for the amount of support they give you they deserve your business. And what the hell is up with Evergreen it's like it doesn't know what the fuck it is. Everyone I meet that's a "snow bro" from there falls into the group of absolutely fucking stupid. __________________ Angry Snowboarder Because someone has to call it how they see it!

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