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post #31 of 55 (permalink) Old 08-08-2012, 04:56 PM
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Evergreen is definitely a weird spot trapped between the mountains and the city with elements of both. It used to be populated by people like me who needed access to the city for work, but didn't really much associate with the city and wanted to get the hell away as soon as they got off work.

Now, it's starting to become overrun with the upper middle class - the worst class, IMO. They're busy going broke playing keeping up with the Jones' and breeding bratty ass kids who become the dumbass snow bros of which you speak. The thing I don't understand is that they're basically creating what most of us were trying to get away from which is basically subdivisions of McMansions. They're pretty much turning Evergreen into a foothills version of Highlands Ranch. That's the main problem with Evergreen. It's pretty much dumbass kids and families. There really isn't much of a young adult crowd. A buddy of mine was living down in the Green Mountain area and was trying to decide whether to move downtown or move up to into the foothills. He was tired of being stuck in between. He's young and single and I basically told him to rule out the foothills. It would suck ass to live up here as a young single. It'd be cool for awhile as I'm sure you could feast on 18 year old and cougar pussy for awhile, but it'd get old I do believe.

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Honestly, I don't buy locally because I don't really know who the good shops are. I'm probably willing to check them out, but honestly don't know where they are.

I could be wrong though as I've only lived in Denver for a little over a year.

I know this isn't the point of this thread, but what are the good boarding shops in the Denver area or in the mountains?
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You know why your local shop is a douche to you? Probably because you've never been there and they can tell you're "just browsing" is more of "just trying on to go home and buy on the Internet". Nothing worse than talking to someone for an hour or two figuring they're going to buy the stuff they're trying on, going through a whole boot fit because their feet are fucked up, and having them walk out the door to buy online. If you're going to do it at least be up front so they don't waste their time with you.
If I go to a shop with questions about a product then I plan to buy it there and pay a little extra for that customer service. I agree it is messed up when someone goes into a shop to find what they want (see in person the size, color, construction, exc...) and leave to order it online. But while ya it sucks you didn't get the buisness that's still part of owning a buisness. It happens in every sport, in every shop, in every store, in every market. That doesn't mean you need to be rude or a jerk to the people browsing your shop. Yea you have the right as a shop owner to do so, but in the long run its not good for your buisness. If that person ever had the intent to purchase anything from you that's gone. All of their friends that may have purchased gear from you probably won't now. You will end up with a reputation of having a bad vibe at your shop and you will loose buisness because. And you cant claim your only being like that to that one person, because if you are that way to that one person, your most likely going to be that way to more people. Also just because you don't recognize someone that enters your shop that appears to be simply browsing doesn't mean that they have no intent to buy anything from you. They may not buy that big ticket item, but they very well may still pick up some smaller things to buy from you.


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I just want to mention that I buy local all the time at ski pro in mesa and they do a great job. No pressure sales BS just customer service that's on point.


My problem is the execution that lacks in most places. I mean the kids pitch is "Bro, You going to buy these boots or not". Not really to engaging and makes me feel like your just trying to convert me into a sale. You almost get the feeling that the kids more stoked he can high five the owner after I buy. Bottom line is a consumer of any product doesn't want to feel sold. If your body language shows that your obviously bothered by me taking my time and asking questions. Your making me feel uncomfortable and making me lean toward not buying now. So I can buy at my convenience which would be at home in front of my comp. Why? Because people that are uncomfortable can read return policy's and know what to expect. I don't want to deal with some shops bitchy employees that are mad they cant be on the hill when my Bindings fuck up. Anybody in sales knows a customer that's enjoying himself is engaged, which makes them more likely to buy on impulse. People spend big money in a relaxed comfortable setting that keeps the buyer at ease when making his choice. I cant tell you how many times I've been into a shop and the pitch was. "Bro I just met with DC's reps and they have the sickest boots this year!" Then I ask about pants maybe some gloves just dumb shit to see his response. sure enough he shows me all DC gear. Really? You sure your not trying to win a board or some stupid shit from DC or your shop? If you actually asked me about what I liked and didn't like about my current gear. You could use the info to close me on gear that will make me keep coming back. They show you a jacket and the 1st thing they say is the obvious "Bro its going to keep you super dry!". Really!? Because I totally thought most jackets would make me wet! Every shop had the guy/kid trying to tell you what you should buy because its what they like. Fuck that your making me feel sold because your showing me shit I didn't ask for. I'm not saying every shop needs a guy with slicked back hair standing at the door with a clip board. Just don't expect me to buy from you when you wouldn't buy a TV, Fridge or Furniture under these circumstances.


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This post is dead on. Most of the shops that bitch and moan about people buying online and not supporting local businesses staff their shops with local bro brah kids who can ride a little bit who think they're going to the X-Games because they work in a snowboard shop. The majority of shops I walk into I end up walking right back out of because of the complete douchebaggery of the kids working there.
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Needed a new pair of laces for my Burton Hails. Called a local shop and they ordered them for me. Just went to pick them up, they gave me them for free and remembered me the last time I was there (back in January). Not anything expensive but its nice to be remembered. Will be shopping locally as long as its available to them.

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I've been buying local lately and its paid off, the shop i usuall buy from gives me free stuff and discounts now so i have no problem spending more there
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I try buying local. I have two shops in my town and honestly the selection ain't great and finding my big ass size in the limited selection they have is usually impossible.

Like someone said earlier, for soft goods I look for last year's models because I can't throw down $300 for a jacket when I can get last year's version for less than half that cost, in my size and without driving all over the damn place.

Now when I *do* shop online, it's almost exclusively through shops that have a brick and mortar presence. My main stop is snowboards.com because they're affiliated with one of my two local shops.

The one exception to sites with a brick and mortar presence was when I bought from Oakley Vault and that was because two pants with 10,000wp/15,000br for $100 wasn't going to happen anywhere else.

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For boards I tend to hunt for deals in local shops. One of the local shops here in NYC offers life time board tune up. Whatever you save online you make it back by bringing your board back for tune up through time. Not to mention if you're lucky you get the board half price there PLUS the benefit of lifetime tuneup. If there are no discounts on the boards I like, i then try to find it online. If the discount isn't that much to begin with, i'd rather get it in store. Again for the life time tune up service.

Boots I definitely recommend getting them in the shop. You don't know how well the boots fit your feet and EVERRYYYBODY'S FEET ARE DIFFERENT (shape, arch, width, toe room etc) unless you put them on and walk around in them. Additionally you can try on as many pairs as you like.

Bindings, I do it online. Better deals. Apparel and accessories, most likely online for the discount.

Basically, if there's no discount online I prefer the local shops. My 2 cents.
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My favorite local shop just recently closed their doors.

RIP Community Skate and Snow in Arvada, CO.
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