Critique my newb setup?... - Page 5 - Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums
User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #41 of 51 (permalink) Old 10-13-2012, 04:19 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 86
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donutz View Post
Yep. Plus it's hard on the carpet and it makes the dog crazy. Tylerkat posted a pic of a 4x4 balance beam in another thread. I had made one last year as did slyder, and they're really good for getting the feel of the board. Also great exercise. Also an excuse to put the equipment on when there's no snow.
Anyone care to post a link to that? I did a search for it but came up empty. I'd like to see this 4x4 balance beam
biocmp is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #42 of 51 (permalink) Old 10-13-2012, 04:19 PM
Drunk with power...er beer.
 
Donutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 4,972
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Blog Entries: 244
I don't know about specific angles, but I've got my highbacks at just slightly more angle than my boots. My personal opinion -- and I'm no expert -- would be that a little less heel overhang is better than a little less toe overhang because the torque you can apply with the highbacks more than makes up for the lack of leverage at the heel. You still have the "weight not centered" problem, but given that we naturally adjust our balance anyway, that's probably not going to be a killer.

If it's a choice between using the disk holes to get just the perfect stance width or using the disks to get just the perfect centering though, I'd go with centering.

Everything's compromise though. You'll never get it perfect. Plus you're not stuck with your first choice. I've re-mounted my bindings while on the mountain before because i just didn't like what I started with. Just don't drop one of the bolts.


Coffee is your friend. Everyone else is an acquaintance.
Donutz is offline  
post #43 of 51 (permalink) Old 10-13-2012, 04:22 PM
Drunk with power...er beer.
 
Donutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 4,972
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Blog Entries: 244
Quote:
Originally Posted by biocmp View Post
Anyone care to post a link to that? I did a search for it but came up empty. I'd like to see this 4x4 balance beam
http://www.snowboardingforum.com/tip...tml#post525839


Coffee is your friend. Everyone else is an acquaintance.
Donutz is offline  
post #44 of 51 (permalink) Old 10-13-2012, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
-LIFETIME MEMBER-
 
OldDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Northern BC
Posts: 300
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Has nothing to do with disks. Go back a couple pages and look at the offset disk vs the 90 degree rotation slid all the way back to the heel. I edited my last post. It's all in the highbacks. The rotation seems to be more of an issue than anything.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Donutz View Post
If it's a choice between using the disk holes to get just the perfect stance width or using the disks to get just the perfect centering though, I'd go with centering.

Last edited by OldDog; 10-13-2012 at 08:46 PM.
OldDog is offline  
post #45 of 51 (permalink) Old 10-13-2012, 05:16 PM
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: LI NY
Posts: 514
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
As long as you are close with the heel/toe overhang, I wouldn't kill yourself about it till you break the gear in a few days or you have a problem engaging one edge or the other. Riding in them will change how your boots sit in the bindings after a few days on the mountain.

But I would also elect for slightly more toe edge overhang than heel. Just not by too much.
Efilnikufesin is offline  
post #46 of 51 (permalink) Old 10-13-2012, 06:03 PM Thread Starter
-LIFETIME MEMBER-
 
OldDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Northern BC
Posts: 300
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yeah, I'm probably about as "dialed in" as I'm going to get without actually riding.

Thanks all!...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efilnikufesin View Post
As long as you are close with the heel/toe overhang, I wouldn't kill yourself about it till you break the gear in a few days or you have a problem engaging one edge or the other. Riding in them will change how your boots sit in the bindings after a few days on the mountain.

But I would also elect for slightly more toe edge overhang than heel. Just not by too much.
OldDog is offline  
post #47 of 51 (permalink) Old 10-27-2012, 07:03 PM Thread Starter
-LIFETIME MEMBER-
 
OldDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Northern BC
Posts: 300
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDog View Post
Yeah, I'm probably about as "dialed in" as I'm going to get without actually riding.

Thanks all!...
Or so I thought!... The boots I bought were shit. Why didn't anyone tell me?

In any event I bought them from a local shop (40 minutes away is local as it gets for me) and the kid that sold them to me didn't know shit. By the time I read Wired's response to Atr3yu about his boots I was like "fuck!".

When I figured out how they should fit and wore them enough that they packed-out they were a full size too big!

That, and that boot (Salomon Dialogue Wide) is a heavy, bulky, over-sized, old-skool, moon boot looking piece of shit! I didn't have the box anymore and I had removed all the tags and was past the 30 day return policy. Not to mention that I bought them on clearance and they were a little scuffed and dirty from fucking around on my 4x4 in the back yard.

Fortunately I went back to the local and the gave took them back in exchange for the Salomon F2.0. Again, a full size smaller. That, and they are super compact, much lighter, and much smoother and even in terms of flex even though they are a med to stiff boot with the same rating as the Dialogue.

So yeah, I'm pumped. Had to shell out like an extra $130 because they were not on clearance, but stoked they took them back.

Now the only problem is I had to completely redo my binding setup. These boots are tiny compared to what I had. I really should have had a medium binding now instead of a large. I had to shorten the straps, pull the gas pedal all the way back, and shift the bindings all the way forward instead of all the way back. That, and the angles felt a little off too so I ended up going 15/-12. Really close to duck. Feels good strapped in though.

Anyway, crisis averted and +1 for the local and the tech that helped me with my boots. Super nice dude, even if he was skier!

The only question I have is in regard to baking my liners to heat form them. The tech said to take them home, strap in and wear them around for 3 days to make sure there was no numbness and that they packed-out just right then bring them back so they can bake them for me. However, nothing I read on the Salomon site or anyway else leads me to believe that the Fusion Liner should be baked. It just says that it forms to your foot over time with body heat. Should I take them in and have them heat molded?

PS: Been wearing them all day!
OldDog is offline  
post #48 of 51 (permalink) Old 11-19-2012, 01:53 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Out of interest what year are you bindings?

I thought all snowboard boots needed to be heated? My girlfriends Vans were done in the shop, my 32 I did by wearing them, took about a day before I could feel them get more comfortable?

Alex B
Alex B is offline  
post #49 of 51 (permalink) Old 11-19-2012, 03:14 PM Thread Starter
-LIFETIME MEMBER-
 
OldDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Northern BC
Posts: 300
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex B View Post
Out of interest what year are you bindings?

I thought all snowboard boots needed to be heated? My girlfriends Vans were done in the shop, my 32 I did by wearing them, took about a day before I could feel them get more comfortable?

Alex B
My formulas are 2012's. I actually took the F20's back and tried Burtons before I settled on 32's.

As for thermal forming boots, the owner of my local says it's good if you have a specific fit problem. Otherwise it just breaks down your boots sooner.
OldDog is offline  
post #50 of 51 (permalink) Old 11-19-2012, 03:21 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 55
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDog View Post
My formulas are 2012's. I actually took the F20's back and tried Burtons before I settled on 32's.

As for thermal forming boots, the owner of my local says it's good if you have a specific fit problem. Otherwise it just breaks down your boots sooner.
I thought they looked like 2012, but all the advertising pictures I've seen show them to have a black and grey pattern on them, yours just look black?

Alex B
Alex B is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome