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foot pain...long drawn out story...lol

Hey guys it has been awhile since I have posted...but I need some advice again. Ok so here are the stats...I am 39 years old I have been riding since the late 80's (built my first board in wood shop). I am not a park guy..i like to spin the occasional 360 but that is about it...powder and backcountry are my usual preferences.

so..about 7 or 8 years ago something changed...in one season I went from loving life to hating it...i ripped the edge out of the board i had at the time...it was an old ride board..red with yellow stripes it looked like a dirt bike and i loved it. I was at fernie on a thigh deep day and ripped the edge right out. At the time I was working at an outdoor shop that had some snowboards and such for sale..taking advantage of this deal i got a new board and boots...both stiffer than my previous boots/board. immediately i started to experience foot pain....devastating foot pain. since then I have messed around with different boots, bindings, stances, footbeds etc. I am a larger (not taller) guy..i am 5'10 and about 210...however I am very active and fit...just not as skinny as i would like lol.

I got some advice to go with a very stiff board and boots...so last year I went with a burton supermodel and driver x boots and cartel bindings.....no luck..even worse. Then i was told to go with a softer board and boots...so this year I have a burton custom flying V and haven't decided on a boot/binding yet...looking at perhaps the ion and the malavita est.

Now I have read about stance angles and width as well..any suggestions there? i run about a 21 wide stance, set slightly back on my board and about a 15/0 sometimes 15/10

I have also taken some new exercises into account..I have been doing work outs either barefoot or in vibram 5 finger shoes, I do a lot of balance work on my balance board (barefoot), and i have started to do toe curls as well. I am hoping this will all help.

so after a very long winded story has anyone else gone through such a sudden change like this...anyone else in the same boat I am? I can get about 2/3rds of a long mountain run in and I have to stop and rest....sometimes rip my boots off and rub my feet etc. it is getting very frustrating and sad to see my favorite sport slipping away. anyone have any help??

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Maybe consult with a good sports foot physical therapist one that deals with foot and perhaps ski/board stuff...not all bodies are alike.


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Agreed, my best friend and frequent riding partner is a very talented podiatrist...he is stumped as well. however we are going to do some tests and get some scans done this season to see if we can come up with anything.
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Agreed, my best friend and frequent riding partner is a very talented podiatrist...he is stumped as well. however we are going to do some tests and get some scans done this season to see if we can come up with anything.
Where are you having pain? Instep (top of foot), arch or the heel? Do you where custom footbeds in your boots?

I found running in five fingers has a tendency build up connective tissue in the soles of my feet... and I need to break it up by rolling my foot on a golf ball... actually my podiatrist just got an EPAT device that basically sends sonic pulses through your feet to break up the tissue (it zings a lot when you hit some scar tissue, but the temporary discomfort is worth it all the little bones in my feet move a lot more easily now as well as my ankle joint in general).
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I went through 5 boots this year trying to find something that didnt hurt me just wearing them around the house. For me, I wanted something stiff this year and the driver X was the most comfortable stuff boot with a reduced footprint (i needed that). BUT, if I could have I would have gone with solomons. My last boots were dialogues and they were incredibly comfortable. I tried on this years Solomon savage straight jacket and they were the most comfortable boots I've worn. So that's what I would suggest, savage and dialogue.

Where do you get the pain from? is there a specific pressure point or loose spot?
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pain is in my arch. I have tried with and without footbeds, orthotics etc.
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If you're already consulting a podiatrist, then you're getting way more info from him than you will from me. Still, my two cents:

Is there a reason that you're only riding Burton boots and bindings? Have you tried other brands since your problems began? Each manufacturer is going to use a different last, and that might be your issue. Burton's last may be particularly ill fitting for your feet.

I second the idea that you should try aftermarket orthotic-type insoles. The ones that come with your boots are pretty crappy.

I'm curious about where in your foot the pain is. If running your feet helps, it sounds to me like a potential pressure point issue. Again, that makes me think that you're wearing poorly fitting boots.

The last option is that you may have some type of physical injury that needs to be addressed. If you're having the same pain in both feet, this seems less likely to me (though not impossible)...
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nope no injuries that I have had

I have ridden all different kinds of boots and bindings...riding burton bindings now because i like the est system (yes I know other bindings can work with the channel)..but I actually find the bindings very comfortable. And the burton boots fit me extremely well. I have over 15 years of outdoor gear/retail/rep experience and have spent a lifetime fitting people properly. i thought that was the problem as well but it doesn't seem to be.

it really is a mystery to me.

I am hoping the foot strengthening exercises will be the ticket.
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Is your Podiatrist friend familiar with SASTM or Graston Technique tools to break up the fibrous tissue in the arch of your foot... I was using that before EPAT and that was pretty effective too. I ended up buying a cheap Fibroblaster tool to use on myself and my running group.
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I got some advice to go with a very stiff board and boots...so last year I went with a burton supermodel and driver x boots and cartel bindings.....no luck..even worse. Then i was told to go with a softer board and boots...so this year I have a burton custom flying V and haven't decided on a boot/binding yet...looking at perhaps the ion and the malavita est.


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How is foot pain based on a stiff or soft boot? I thought stiff and soft boots are for response and personal preference? I've ridden thirty-two 304, which are pretty stiff. Went down to a Burton Boxer, which I felt were two soft. Switched to 32 Lashed...

Do you have any foot pain just walking? Or is it only during snowboarding?
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