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Old 12-03-2012, 06:00 AM   #91 (permalink)
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...Think about what has gone on here as an example. Neither you or old dog have been threatened with banning. I and the moderator fully understand that the dynamics here is a learning curve. You're certainly not the first person to tangle with BA and you won't be the last. We see damn near every new member go through the process. You should have seen the fucking epic shit show my first encounter with BA was years ago!!! Over the years though I figured out the dynamics and we gradually grew to respect each other and I am proud to call the guy a friend!
...this is only one of the reasons I like this forum & respect the quality of information & advice given here! I'm a NooB @ this sport and I haven't been on this forum all that long, but I have read enough posts here to know. What I've deduced by reading between the lines concerning the interactions between these guy's & their history is they must have had one "Fucking EPIC Shitstorm" of a go @ each other!!!! (or 2 or 3!) ...and yet here they are, "Best of Bud's"!!
(...or something scary and strange like that!!)

They have a mutual (...and somewhat antagonistic!) respect for each other and they contribute TONS of good shit to this forum community!!!

...OK, I think my nose is sufficiently brown enough now!! I'm Out!
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:36 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Eh, the Reader`s Digest version goes about like so, I was a noob with about a year of riding under my belt and had just become an instructor and thought I was the shit. Said something stupid and BA called me out on it in his usual warm and fuzzy way. I got totally butthurt because I didnt get who the guy was and I acted like a total douchebag .

Over the years across a couple of different forums I evolved, gained experience, knowledge and I hope at least a little wisdom; enough to know I didnt know shit then and only know a tiny bit now. I learned who the guy really was as a person and as a rider and gained respect for him. It also needs to be said that even though I douched out and was a total prick, the guy genuinely helped me with some gear advice and did not hold any grudge; a lesser man would have told me to get fucked.

Over the years a mutual respect developed and last spring I got to finally meet him in person and spent half a day riding with him, well trying to keep up with him to be more accurate and had a fucking blast! One of the funnest guys you could ever ride with....
This story gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:04 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Not to be a cunt or anything, but........
3 Miles SSE Mt. Rainier, Washington:

Today Snow showers. Steady temperature around 14. Windy, with a west wind around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 9 to 13 inches possible.

Tonight Snow. Low around 13. Breezy, with a southwest wind 20 to 25 mph decreasing to 13 to 18 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 14 to 20 inches possible.

Tuesday Snow showers. High near 23. Breezy, with a southwest wind 17 to 22 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 27 to 33 inches possible.

Tuesday Night Snow showers. Low around 10. Windy, with a west southwest wind 21 to 26 mph increasing to 28 to 33 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 6 to 10 inches possible.

Wednesday Snow showers. High near 16. Windy, with a west wind 31 to 33 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

Wednesday Night Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 3. Breezy. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.

Thursday Snow showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 15. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 13 to 19 inches possible.

...cummon!!! Don't gimme that!!! You did that on purpose!! Just like your Mt. Baker in Aug. pic!!! You know you did!!!!
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:17 AM   #94 (permalink)
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Gotta love this place, from total tap out affliction to rainbows and unicorns in one thread.

I've been on dozens of forums over the years, admined a few back in the day. This is the only one I have stuck with, and the only one I've ever paid any money to at all. The reasons are to numerous to list, threads like this are part of it. Sorry to see MPD go, gonna kind of miss the little fellow
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:44 AM   #95 (permalink)
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Gotta love this place, from total tap out affliction to rainbows and unicorns in one thread.

I've been on dozens of forums over the years, admined a few back in the day. This is the only one I have stuck with, and the only one I've ever paid any money to at all. The reasons are to numerous to list, threads like this are part of it. Sorry to see MPD go, gonna kind of miss the little fellow
I'll miss the inspiring tales of doing drugs with your kids.

My pops really missed the boat on that one!
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:53 AM   #96 (permalink)
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What who doesn't want someone that works at Denny's, does drugs with his kids, and is a "retired" respected successful businessman around?
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:32 AM   #97 (permalink)
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You can name names. If it's an honest feeling, bring it up. You may or may not be referring to me but I will gladly address your point which is a valid one. You're right to a degree. As I said earlier, this is not a democracy and not all members are equal. Not going to deny it nor apologize for it. There are interpersonal dynamics going here that a new member cannot possibly understand......

....yeah, sure... as if this internet message board might be some kind of carefully controlled social experiment. That is a laugh.

TRANSLATION: There are a bunch of people on the board (both new and old) who flame the board. It is far too much time and hassle to be objective, consistent, and fair the entire time so I have opted for the 'Old boy' system instead.

To the OP and other similar minded folk: there is good information and even some good people to be found on the forum.... but the chaff you have to wade through, and the garbage that many folks like to put on the board is considerable. The reasons that this is the case are less important than the fact that the site owners care way, way less about the 'user/visitor experience' here than page hits.

Motorcycle.com runs more than a few forums that I frequent (i ride a sportbike, so i get around to a couple of them), but this one does have more adolescents (of varying ages) ranting and insulting one another on it than I see on others.

My suggestions if you don't want to deal with the drama:
1. Limit your time/posts here and go elsewhere for snow sports related discussion (Epic ski, TGR, etc)
2. Don't give the site any money (memberships/ads, etc)
3. Use the search before bothering to post a question. A great many things get asked over and over again, receiving different answers from different people. Unless the information you are looking for is specific to current times/season... it has almost certainly already been discussed half a dozen times.

If you do stick around, it will help to recognize this place for what it is at its core..... IRC for the 21st century. If you aren't old enough to understand the reference then my apologies.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:39 AM   #98 (permalink)
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My suggestions if you don't want to deal with the drama:
1. Limit your time/posts here and go elsewhere for snow sports related discussion (Epic ski, TGR, etc)
Lol, Epic Ski is the butt of many, many jokes... TGR on the other hand, go asking stupid questions there. See how far you get, oh and what names you get called. Hilarious as it is, not for everyone, and pretty intimidating.

TGR does have good crockpot recipes though
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TGR is decent on local stuff for us. (Canadian Rockies) Some hiking / scramble / climbing forum people are on there for backcountry ski/ split boarding.
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You can name names. If it's an honest feeling, bring it up. You may or may not be referring to me but I will gladly address your point which is a valid one. You're right to a degree. As I said earlier, this is not a democracy and not all members are equal. Not going to deny it nor apologize for it. There are interpersonal dynamics going here that a new member cannot possibly understand. In time though new members become veteran members and the dynamics become clear and understandable.

Length of membership is actually a small component in determining an individual's worth to the community. As an example, I just 86'd a shit stain that was one of the earliest members. It is really about contribution. Does a member bring something of value to the table? Do they help folks? Are they knowledgeable? Do they post great trip reports? Or are they constantly causing problems and being idiots and douchebags? You get the idea. As evidenced from my action, I don't care if a person has been here since the site went online, if all they bring to the table is trolling and douchebaggery, they are worth about as much as used shit paper. I always give them a few chances to chill out and heed the warnings but when they then give me the middle finger, they are flushed because to me they are just another turd in the sewer of life.

Think about what has gone on here as an example. Neither you or old dog have been threatened with banning. I and the moderator fully understand that the dynamics here is a learning curve. You're certainly not the first person to tangle with BA and you won't be the last. We see damn near every new member go through the process. You should have seen the fucking epic shit show my first encounter with BA was years ago!!! Over the years though I figured out the dynamics and we gradually grew to respect each other and I am proud to call the guy a friend!

You know that on most forums, the moderators would have just banned without asking any questions. It takes a lot to get banned from here so while at first this seemingly uneven handed moderating may seem unfair, the payoff is that when member proves themselves, they are in the country club for pretty much as long as they want to be.

Your observation and opinion is valid and not unimportant. The one thing about this site that you will learn is that can be totally honest with anyone including the moderators and admins. As long as you have not spent the last 5 or 6 years being a douche to everyone, you don't have anything to worry about and we all have bad days and we understand that. It really is a great community so stick around. I'm not supposed to reveal this but when NA is calling you a fucktard and telling you to go drink bleach, he's got an impish grin on! It's a little bit like when an Aussie calls someone a wanker or a cunt; it's really good natured banter!
Thanks for clearing that up Snowolf. I get what you're saying.
Hey, are you British? I am, and I recognize some of your terms (mum, wanker, etc.)
Or are you Canadian and that's just how they speak?
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