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Hell, for 4 years I was a territory rep. 80% of my day was spent behind a wheel. I'd eat, text, email, browse the web, and all kinds of shit behind the wheel. I had to unless I wanted to pull 12 hour days everyday waiting until I got home to get all my admin done. I perfected driving with my knees during those years.

Oh, and I should add that I've never been in a wreck on the road and have only had one ticket in the last decade and that one got dismissed after I damn near physically fought an assistant DA in Aurora. Fuck that town.

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It's a bit of the 90/10 rule at work. 90% of ppl can barely drive while they're driving. I don't doubt a pro/amateur driver can handle multitasking while driving but they're 10%.

I dont doubt a pilot feels like driving is the easiest thing in the world by comparison either. Shit, if ppl got half the training behind the wheel that a single Engine pilot has to take, the roads would be a heck of a lot safer. We'd prob get a bunch of Ernest hemingways behind the wheel.

I think we can agree on two things:

You should have a good reason to take your eyes off the road or just minimize doing it.

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The majority of drivers on the road suck balls at driving. In CO, the majority of those who suck balls at driving also tend to drive Subarus. When I see a Subaru, I just assume the guy/gal can't drive for shit and I'm usually right.

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Hmm, why not just take over driving?
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Oh my god! I thought this was an Oregon thing. I have gotten to the point that just the sight of a fucking Subaru pisses me off. I have never seen so many HORRIBLE drivers attracted to a single make of vehicle in all of my life!
They think the awd makes them awesome drivers.

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Because my passengers may not be comfortable with these habits, I do in fact abstain from any of these potentially distracting behaviors with passengers in my vehicle. In the plane of course, I have to do the things I need to but I also try to fly like a professional so that even though they are in a small Cessna, it feels like a smooth airline flight (well, as smooth as a light plane can be in weather). I want people to feel safe when I am driving and flying, so I try to use professional habits that put people at ease...
See, that's a good attitude!

I've been thinking about what you said about how busy it is in the cockpit compared to a car. I bet you'd shit a brick if the skies were as busy as a road though. Not every cessna has a proximity warning device but you know whats around you within about 1/2 - 1 mile radius. I'm not dumb enough to say that pilots dont need fast reflexes but generally speaking, crazy traffic conditions dont really happen once you get off the runway.

Once you're up, you have the time to actually read a map/look at little numbers on an altimeter/join the mile-high club/whatever. I think wierd shit happens more often on the road and you have to be more reactive then a pilot mid-flight. I'm not saying piloting is -easy-, just demanding in diff ways. If I was going to make analogy (and I -really- hate analogies) I would say its like dicking around on a phone while approaching a landing.

Could you imagine a blue angel pilot in the middle of an airshow?

"Yeah, I'm flying a 10 tonne machine 3 inches away from another 10 tonne machine at 500 mph... wait what? Why does my wife want me to pick up a gallon of milk from the..."

fiery crash ensues
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I gotta agree with you here. It's just not that difficult. If people find the idea of this so difficult, they ought to try single pilot IFR shooting an instrument approach down to minimums in crowded airspace; been there, do that! You're flying the airplane to precise standards of speed, decent, course and altidue all the while reading your approach plate, talking to ATC, working the NAV radios and going through landing checklist all while fighting wind, rain and turbulence!

Texting, talking on phone, eating, etc while driving is child's play by comparison. It's really more about how, where and when you do your multitasking. I'm actually composing this post while at work driving a semi hauling fuel...LOL
haha thats funny as hell! I always wondered if you got bored driving a semi, so you just posted on here.

I bummed a ride down with this kid the other day, and he was tail gating the absolute fuck out of the car in front of him, and it was night time and still icy, and he would just ride up on him and slam the brakes and repeat. Honestly pissed me the hell off, but i held my tongue because if he is willing to let me bum a ride down i'm not going to tell him how to drive mom's honda pilot.

I always tell myslelf not to text while actually driving, it's just not worth it to crash and fuck everything up over a text, but honestly its not that freaking hard. I have had more close calls being distracted by shiny things on the side of the road than looking at a phone.

as far as the plane thing goes thought, you can look at the controls on a plane without a child running in front of you, or the plane in front of you slamming on its brakes, a lot less chance to actually crash into something because you aren't looking than texting in a car.

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lol if you dont like how someone else drives, take your own fucking car or volunteer to drive. i drive every weekend to the mountain and ill be damned if someone in the backseat who can take a nap and put their feet up is going to tell me what to do while im driving.


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Hate tailgating... absolutely hate it. Truly the worst driving habit, especially in volume traffic. As someone that commutes into NYC I would guess that 85%, possibly more of the traffic I deal with is the result of the accordion effect... not to mention fender benders because of the assholes that tailgate. I had a semi-road rage incident last week coming home when some dbag insisted on sliding in to my following distance to advance a single car length.

I am guilty of sneaking in an email, text or look once in a while and i use a mount for my phone since I also use it as a GPS. I could do it all day if other people weren't so terrible at driving. Its mostly out of fear of others that I try not to make a habit of it.

If only people knew how to drive... Paying attention, maintaining a proper following distance, gentle breaking, smooth acceleration and staying right except to pass could eliminate so much of the traffic i deal with.
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How do you all feel about technology that allows cars to be self driven? A few companies are experimenting with this technology now. In theory, it would allow cars to drive within a few inches of each other since distance would be monitored by computers and electronics rather than by humans with variable reaction times. You would eliminate the accordion effect. You would be able to text, read, eat, take a nap, or do whatever you want while the car drives itself.

Regarding distraction while driving, has anyone else read Traffic by Tom Vanderbilt? It's a pretty interesting read. One of the discussions regards the amount of information a driver has to deal with on a typical drive down a city street. Between traffic signs, business signs, other vehicles, traffic lights, speed control devices, etc. the average number of decisions that a driver has to make was something in the hundreds within a very short distance. An experienced driver knows how to sift through the information to consciously deal with the most important information (such as a car approaching from 90°) while letting the subconscious deal with the less important information (such as a yellow traffic sign that says "deer" or something like that). A new driver, such as a teenager, still needs to process consciously much more information than an older, experienced driver.

Traffic: Why We Drive the Way We Do (and What It Says About Us): Tom Vanderbilt: 9780307277190: Amazon.com: Books



Check out this video of a car parking itself in a parking garage. Of course it's not practical to implement right now, but I think it's pretty amazing that a car can do this on its own.

CES 2013: Audi Piloted Parking - YouTube

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