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Old 01-13-2013, 04:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I hot waxed my board last weekend with the Lib Tech All Temp Banana Wax (came with the tuning kit I got on sale) and tried it out yesterday. Wasn't expecting much from it so I wasn't too disappointed but I was going really slow. I'm pretty sure it wasn't my wax job since the base was very smooth with no "sticky" clumps of wax and I buffed the wax out with a scotch pad until my arms fell off. But back to my question, I wanted to change wax to OneballJay's Cool temp four wheel drive wax. I figured I need to clean the base before changing from all temp to temp specific wax so will rubbing alcohol work as a base cleaner? The board tech at my local shop said it'd be fine for a temporary base cleaner replacement.
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Also, any reviews on that four wheel drive wax?
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You don't need to clean your base in order to change the wax type. You waxed, and then rode. That's good enough. If you REALLY want to clean it though, use a citrus based cleaner of some kind, not rubbing alcohol. As for the 4WD, I've used the warm, cold and all temp. It's not bad wax. OBJ in general makes decent wax. There are cheaper alternatives though that work just as well. In the end, it's just wax. Don't overthink it.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't strip the old wax out of your base. Just keep layering wax on top for whatever conditions you are riding next. The only reason to ever strip the wax out of your base is to get dirt and other contaminents out. Don't use a base cleaner then either, just give your base a few hot scrapes (scrape the wax when it is still warm.)
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I've heard the term hot scrape but never have seen anyone do it or tell me exactly what it is? Is it just dripping some cheap wax on the board then ironing it on just like you would with a regular wax job then just scraping it off right after before it cools?

Also what does a hot scrape do? Does it just take off all old wax?
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Hot scraping is just scraping while the wax is still warm. Don't overthink it.

As for what it does, it removes more wax than is normally removed when you scrape a cold board. If you ride mountains with sub-par conditions there is typically a lot of dirt or other pollutants. When you wax your board you typically break these pollutants free from the base and they mix with your wax (the reason the wax looks dirty when your spreading it sometimes.)

Hot scraping is used to remove these pollutants as an alternative to using a base cleaner that strips all of the wax out of the base. The only time you ever need to strip all of the wax out is if you are doing p-tex repair work. Other than that, keep layering wax on top of wax, on top of wax, on top of wax. There is no such thing as overwaxing, it can just get a little expensive if you go crazy.
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Ok, makes things alot easier! Thank you!
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it sounds like ur in pnw...it doesn't get cold enough to use cold wax...generally. last sat at bakes was about the coldest we ever had 10 degrees in the early am. my board was a tad slow but by mid am it was fine and blasting groomers at 40+mph. thus don't over think the wax type...i use grocery store canning wax...$4 for a pound....works just fine.
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I hot waxed my board last weekend with the Lib Tech All Temp Banana Wax (came with the tuning kit I got on sale) and tried it out yesterday. Wasn't expecting much from it so I wasn't too disappointed but I was going really slow. I'm pretty sure it wasn't my wax job since the base was very smooth with no "sticky" clumps of wax and I buffed the wax out with a scotch pad until my arms fell off. But back to my question, I wanted to change wax to OneballJay's Cool temp four wheel drive wax. I figured I need to clean the base before changing from all temp to temp specific wax so will rubbing alcohol work as a base cleaner? The board tech at my local shop said it'd be fine for a temporary base cleaner replacement.
You're not scraping enough if you're doing that much buffing. You can also use a drill to buff.
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